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Thursday, November 13, 2008

Life just got more difficult for the Tories

Warren is backing Iggy.

Though a lot of Tory bloggers hate the guy, he's a brilliant operative. He's been a significant part of the McGuinty war room in the last two elections... anyone recall how badly they destroyed John Tory during the campaign? I remember attending a John Tory event in Guelph... reporters weren't paying any attention to Tory, they all had their heads down reading the latest press release from the Liberal War Room.

If Warren's backing Iggy and Iggy wins (as it's starting to look like a coronation), then life just got a whole lot more complicated for us in the next election.

Add to that the juvenile and politically suicidal antics of some Tories (yes, I'm talking about your e-mails from this morning Mr. B...), and it's starting to look like the next election is going to be a real fight.

UPDATE: Hang on a sec... I just re-read what Warren said:
"Some months ago, I was in Montreal to give a speech to a group of Conservative, Liberal and Green Party students at McGill. Out of the blue, one of Michael’s staff people called me up, and asked if I would consider having breakfast with the Grit MP at a nearby hotel. I was a bit surprised."
Say that again? "Some months ago"?!?!? Do you mean, like, before October 15th? Did Warren just tell us that Iggy was busy quietly organizing for another leadership bid before Dion had even lost the election?

Talk about party loyalty... dear Liberals, is that the sort of guy you really want to support? A guy who's making plans to take over while the leader of your party still has a pulse?

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

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  • At Thu Nov 13, 02:39:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Unknown said…

    Calm down. It doesn't matter who the Liberal leader is. They cannot and will not win the next election. They remain a party that has serious fundraising problems, no real policies, no appeal whatsoever to western Canada or large parts of Quebec, and locked in a three-way left-wing vote-split. Also remember that there is a significant chunk of the party that wants nothing to do with Ignatieff; hence why he couldn't win the leadership last time.

    Does it mean the Conservatives have to sharpen their game? Absolutely. But Stephen Harper is no John Tory, and the rest of Canada is not so squishy as Ontario was in reelecting that blowhard lying fool McGuinty their premier.

  • At Thu Nov 13, 02:46:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Yeah, his anti-religious bigotry has helped destroy Tory on faith based schools and Stockwell Day with a big purple dinosaur.

    You go girl!

  • At Thu Nov 13, 03:13:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Joanne (True Blue) said…

    I think you're giving Kinsella way too much credit here.

  • At Thu Nov 13, 03:33:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    On the contrary Joanne, I don't think that most of us give Warren the fearful respect he's due. If we don't start paying more attention to the little things, he'll eat us alive.

  • At Thu Nov 13, 03:52:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Robert G. Harvie, Q.C. said…

    Ok, so I've been bashing Warren pretty regularly lately.. but, the point is, he's an anachronism.

    Iggy is "old school" Liberal, and even the Liberals know they need to move forward - look at James Curran's blogs.. the future of the Liberal party, and of Canada, is not for people like Jean Chrétien and his collection of hangers-on, including Warren Kinsella.

    I read his blog daily - I've read his books.. and while he still has occasional flashes of keen observation, Kinsella is little more now than a Monday-morning quarterback of politics in this country, his observations now being more hackneyed than insightful.

    The greater risk.. is not that we ignore Kinsella, but that we ignore our base and that we forget why the PC party died and was resurrected.. to be a party of the common average Canadian, the people of all races and beliefs who share a willingness to work hard for what they have and who resent those who have their hands out to demand a piece of that hard work..

  • At Thu Nov 13, 08:42:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Kinsella has a few enemies in the LPC.
    Right now I'm betting somebody who has experienced the dirty end of one of his pranks waiting for an opportunity to do to Kinsella what Kinsella prides himself in.

  • At Thu Nov 13, 09:16:00 p.m. EST, Blogger lance said…

    ++roblaw. It's not about a never-been Toronto lawyer, it's about the CPC losing the West.

    I didn't vote CPC last time, preferring to protest with the Libertarian party. Apparently there's 56 or so of us in the riding.

    The CPC lost my money and my vote last go-round and if they don't change their ways they'll lose it the next run too.

    This faux policy convention cum party is an indication of why the CPC are going to be irrelevant. How many amendments from the policy committee are just changing wording from, "a conservative government will" to "the conservative party believes".

    Ridiculous and in doing, belies the statement.

    Harper and his damned incrementalism. Who is being incremented? The party or the country?


  • At Thu Nov 13, 09:42:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Kinsella succeeded with idiot chretien during the days of a divided conservative movement. They were aided by a fellating media, giving both of them delusions of competence.
    As for destroying John Tory, all they had to do was stay out of the way and let him speak about funding religous schools.
    As said above, the man represents the past.

  • At Thu Nov 13, 11:32:00 p.m. EST, Blogger sor said…

    Kinsella is known out here in the west for his failed Liberal run for a seat during one of Cretien's elections. Cretien even came to stump for him and he still came last. Kinsella is a joke out here and there is a lot of anger over how he prtrayed Stock Day.

    Day has turned out to be one of the most respected Minister's and keeps his personal beliefs to himself as should Kinsella as well. Cheers.

  • At Mon Nov 17, 10:47:00 a.m. EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To Lance:

    You're not alone. I had a "falling-out" with Conservatives in Guelph and ended up backing the Libertarian candidate myself. He came 6th out of 10. (That's right, we had 10 candidates in Guelph)

    It's tough being libertarian in a country where the vast majority expect government to solve our problems for us.

    In Liberty,

    Mike Wisniewski


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