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Thursday, April 19, 2007

More Anti-Israel Liberals

Once again, the Liberal Party members in Alberta help re-enforce the notion that the Liberal Party of Canada has taken a new anti-Israel stance... meet Farhan Chak, the new Liberal candidate in Edmonton-Mills Wood-Beaumont. And I quote...
The butcher of the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps, the notorious Ariel Sharon, has been elected Israel's Prime Minister and has shamelessly withdrawn all pledges grudgingly granted. The Palestinians have been reduced to slaves, thrown into squalor in a land they once inhabited. To add insult to injury, the Israeli government insists on 'showing restraint' by murdering children, raping women, and torturing an entire populace labeling this all as Palestinian 'collective suicide.'
Scary thing is, he's in Edmonton... the one place in Alberta that the Liberals actually have a remote chance of winning.

Let's just hope that Mr. Dion, should he win, doesn't stick him in somewhere like Foriegn Affairs... or National Defence... or Citizenship and Immigration... or International Cooperation... or make him a Secretary of State for Multiculturalism and Canadian Identity... or... or... or...

Let's just keep it simple... let's just beat the guy at the ballot box.

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16 Comments:

  • At Thu Apr 19, 05:14:00 PM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    sounds like a nutbar. nevertheless, sharon's crimes at the refugee camps are well-documented crimes against humanity. certainly a putatvie christian wouldn't dispute the repugnant nature of those atrocities???

     
  • At Fri Apr 20, 08:24:00 AM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    If memory serves me right, it was Christians who conducted the murders in the Sabra and Shatilla Camps. Sharon's guilt lay in the fact that he failed to prevent the murders by interceeding.

    The hand that did the killing was a Christian hand.

     
  • At Fri Apr 20, 08:36:00 AM EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    "The hand that did the killing was a Christian hand."

    Evidence, please.

     
  • At Fri Apr 20, 01:08:00 PM EDT, Blogger Brian in Calgary said…

    Evidence, please.

    He doesn't have any because it doesn't exist.

     
  • At Fri Apr 20, 04:40:00 PM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    It is an accepted fact that the Christian Phalange Party of Lebanon conducted the murders in Sabra and Shitilla.

    do a little research. The only people who dispute it is those who dispise Israel. Is that you???

     
  • At Sat Apr 21, 09:49:00 AM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    It was death at the hands of Christians in Lebanon's Sabra and Shatilla camps.

     
  • At Sat Apr 21, 11:51:00 AM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I was shocked at how many closet Liberals are in this city....Edmonton.

     
  • At Sat Apr 21, 10:47:00 PM EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    "It was death at the hands of Christians in Lebanon's Sabra and Shatilla camps."

    Anyone calling themselves "Christian" who take part in or assist in the murder of innocent people automatically lose all rights to apply the word "Christian" to themselves. Whatever group undertook those murders, they were not walking in the steps of Christ... they were not Christians.

    Christ commanded us to love our enemies, and I oppose anyone who dishonours the name of my Saviour.

     
  • At Sun Apr 22, 08:06:00 AM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Dear CC:

    HAve you heard of the Crusades or the Inquisition ??

    Hundreds of thousands were tortured and put to the death in the name of your Saviour.

    Christians seem to be blind towards their history.

     
  • At Sun Apr 22, 08:48:00 AM EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Not blind at all Anon, I'm a purist... people who kill in the name of "God" are no better than the pilots on 9/11, or the Taliban... true followers of Christ would do no such thing.

    (and don't forget, there is a distinct difference between Catholic and Protestent when it comes to these sorts of "historical crimes"... my feminist-postmodernist-atheist highschool teach never did figure that out...)

     
  • At Sun Apr 22, 04:44:00 PM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The Protestants. Would those include the ones who direct
    ed the Third Reich? or Ian Paisley and his campaign of terror over three decades?

    Or am I just a confused postmodernist feminist?!!

    Chritians killed through the centuries in the main of their christ. Catholics, Calvanists, Protestants, Phalangists, Eastern Orthodox.

    They all had one common bond. They did so in the name of Jesus Christ.

    Stephen Harper can apologize to Japaneese internees, why can't Christians apologize for their past.

     
  • At Sun Apr 22, 06:22:00 PM EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    "Nazis were Christians"?!?!?!? Oh my goodness... it's truely sad that your impression of the Lord Jesus Christ has been tainted with such disgusting images. I can attest, according to God's Holy Word, that the Nazis were by no means people who knew Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour.

    Two examples for you... a good friend/pastor of mine, from Germany, his family of true Christians opposed Nazi rule in the 1930's. His older brother was conscripted to the U-boats, and died somewhere in the southern seas.

    Second example was of Deitrich Bonhoffer, a Godly man and I believe a true Christian, who refused to bow to the wishes of the Nazis and was executed in one of the Death Camps just before they were liberated by the Russians.

    As for Ian Paisley, if he advocated the deaths of Catholics, then he should be condemned. So far as I can recall, he's never advocated violence, but sought to enforce the "rights" of Protestents in the North in ways that have over the years caused reactions that have lead to bloodshed... but I don't think you can say his actions have truely been in Spirit of the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    True, over the years many have claimed the Name of Christ in an effort to further their own political gains, but people who do such things don't really know who Christ is, or what He taught.

    If you read more of my articles, you'll see that, I hope. For example, I am not someone who seeks to enforce Christian views on people via politics... I am a Christian who seeks to ensure that people of faith in Canada have their views heard in the political arena. Those are two very different points of view, are they not?

    As for the acts of those who claimed to be "Christian", I can't appologize... it would be like asking you to appologize for slavery if you happen to be white, or asking you to appoligize to everyone you meet from India because you happen to be British, or asking everyone of German extraction to continually appologize for WWII... it's unreasonable, because subsequent generations can't be held accountable for their ancestors actions in that way.

    However, I will clarify in that I think groups like the Catholic church, as an institution, should appologize for their various crimes, such as the Crusades and Inqusition you refer to. (again, it is reasonable for the INSTITUTION to be responsible, not necessarily individual Catholics)

     
  • At Mon Apr 23, 03:42:00 PM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Here is a thought on this subject from a noted historian

    The following words from Hitler show his disdain for atheism, and pagan cults, and reveals the strength of his Christian feelings:


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    My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.
    -Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922





    Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today's Church leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult worshipper, or a false Christian. However, from the earliest formation of the Nazi party and throughout the period of conquest and growth, Hitler expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers. In the 1920s, Hitler's German Workers' Party (pre Nazi term) adopted a "Programme" with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a constitution). In point twenty-four, their intent clearly demonstrates, from the very beginning, their stand in favor of a "positive" Christianity:

    24. We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialist spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health from within only on the principle: the common interest before self-interest.

    Hitler's speeches and proclamations, even more clearly, reveal his faith and feelings toward a Christianized Germany. Nazism presents an embarrassment to Christianity and demonstrates the danger of faithThe following words from Hitler show his disdain for atheism, and pagan cults, and reveals the strength of his Christian feelings:


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    My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.
    -Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922

     
  • At Mon Apr 23, 06:21:00 PM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You seem pretty anti-Catholic CC.

    How come?

     
  • At Mon Apr 23, 10:12:00 PM EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Anon@6:21, as I read the Holy Scriptures, I see that Grace comes to mankind by faith in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary.

    From my exposure to many of the Catholic faith, such as a missions trip I did to Southern Ireland, there is a heavy reliance on "the Church" for their salvation... which is taught nowhere in Scripture.

    I believe that the Catholic Church, by propogating their version of salvation, is reponsible for giving millions a false assurance of going to Heaven. I view it in the same vein as Islam... a faith which will not sucessfully reconcile a man to his Creator.

    So no, I'm not "anti-Catholic", I just don't agree with their doctrines.

    I also feel that over the centuries, they mixed politics with faith far more than they ought to have. The message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ was not a political one, but one of faith.

    Though I too mix the two, I recognize that there are distinct lines between the two. I will never seek to promote the Gospel through political means... nor will I ever bring politics into faith.

    A fine line, sometimes hard to keep seperate sucessfully, but I try.

     
  • At Mon Apr 23, 10:19:00 PM EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Anon@3:42am, you prove my point... many over the years claim the Name of Christ, but their actions betray the true state of their hearts... reprobate and wretched to the core.

    I do not for a second believe that Adolf Hitler truely knew the Lord Jesus Christ as his Saviour.

    I will say, however, that the glorious work of Christ on the cross was sufficient to save even him, had he truely repented and believed.

    This may be hard to believe, but as an example of God's wonderful grace, I know for a fact that Jeffery Dhamer became a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ before his execution. A good friend of mine coresponded with him for some time before his death, and according to his letters, he knew the Lord as his Saviour... he confessed and was repentant for his crimes, and knew that there was no hope for himself in eternity apart from God's grace granted to him through the death and resurection of Christ.

     

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