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I'm an evangelical Christian, member of the CPC, but presently & unjustly exiled to wander the political wilderness.
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Monday, May 29, 2006

CUPE is Anti-Israel

h/t to Warren. CUPE has decided to publicly call for the destruction of the nation of Israel. From the National Post:
Katherine Nastovski, chair of the CUPE Ontario international solidarity committee, is quoted in the release as saying, "Boycott, divestment and sanction worked to end apartheid in South Africa.

"We believe the same strategy will work to enforce the rights of Palestinian people, including the right of refugees to return to their homes and properties."
News flash to CUPE... the much touted "Right of Return" is nothing more than a call for the total destruction of the nation of Israel itself. Can you imagine opening the flood gates to thousands of armed and angry militants, who have repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel, living within the borders of Israel?

Neither can the Israelis. Therefore, THEY AIN'T GONNA LET IT HAPPEN.

Some may make the argument that "the Palestinians where there first". Not prior to 1920 they weren't... and the people of Israel had been there long before that, but had been expelled by Muslims and Christians, alternately, for over a thousand years.

What about THEIR "Right of Return"? Problem is, their true right of return would include all of Gaza and the West Bank.

So, within the framework of the existing borders, can't we find a way to just all get along?

posted by Christian Conservative @ 10:31 a.m.  

13 Comments:

  • At Mon May 29, 03:29:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Omar said…

    CC, I hope you're not one of those loony-tunes fundies who supports Israel because you think it's gonna bring about the end-times...

    Is there any other type, jdave?
    Christian Fundamentalism=Islam Fundamentalism. There is really no difference. Both believe they have got a lock on the truth and both are insidously wrong.

     

  • At Mon May 29, 06:20:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Unions moe so than Churches should NOT be allowed to use their group support and funding to put forth a political opinion. It's an abuse of their member's dues !

     

  • At Mon May 29, 07:13:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Blake Kennedy said…

    "Is there any other type, jdave?
    Christian Fundamentalism=Islam Fundamentalism. There is really no difference."

    BS, Omar. And that's a statement that's just going to make fundamentalists roll their eyes and walk away. And how lame do you have to be to be out-logicked by a fundamentalist? However,

    "Both believe they have got a lock on the truth and both are insidously wrong."

    On this count you do far better.

     

  • At Mon May 29, 09:15:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Mark said…

    Anti-Zionism is implicitly anti-Jewish because it intends that the Jews should not have their own country, least of all on land that is historically theirs.

     

  • At Tue May 30, 09:51:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Blake Kennedy said…

    "Anti-Zionism is implicitly anti-Jewish because it intends that the Jews should not have their own country, least of all on land that is historically theirs."

    Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. By that logic, it is anti-Semitic to criticize Israel for its at times poor track record and atrocities and baiting it has committed against Arabs in the region.

    Don't get me wrong: I'm a Zionist, but to link the two is illogical and unreasonable.

    But the more I hear some of the rhetoric on this thread, the less comfortable I am about admitting in public that I am, in fact, a Zionist.

    (And history has several persepctives on whose land it actually is. I'm not nearly so myopic as to think that it's a cut and dried case for Jewish inhabitation because they once lived there at one point. Frankly, the only reason they have that land is because of the Holocaust. Let's not disrespect the memory of around 6 million bodies whose blood bought that land for the current inhabitants.)

     

  • At Tue May 30, 07:22:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Mark said…

    blake

    Legitimate criticism of Israel is not anti-Zionism, neither is it antisemitic. I have not stated that it is.

    But attempts to delegitimize Israel by morally equating it with the despotic regimes around her are anti-Zionist. Using highly questionable political wedges, like the "right of return", to undermine her existence is also anti-Zionist. Demanding that Israel tear down her "apartheid wall", i.e. her extremely efficient and effective security fence against homicidal ideologues in the WB and GS, is also anti-Zionist.

    Everything policy or "right" that CUPE has stated it is in favour are ploys aimed at the destruction of Israel. That's anti-Zionism. Anything that aims to destroy the Jewish State is implicitly anti-Zionist and antisemitic.

     

  • At Tue May 30, 07:37:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Mark said…

    And just in time... Dennis Prager in today's Townhall: Why anti-Zionism is anti-semitism.

     

  • At Tue May 30, 08:29:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Omar said…

    BS, Omar. And that's a statement that's just going to make fundamentalists roll their eyes and walk away. And how lame do you have to be to be out-logicked by a fundamentalist?

    Blake,
    And your counter argument was? Nigga, please.

     

  • At Tue May 30, 09:47:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Mark... GREAT LINK, thanks a lot.

    I agree with it's premise wholeheartedly.

     

  • At Wed May 31, 07:49:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    "So does that mean that any reasonable criticism of the actions of the Israeli government need to be curbed, since they're automatically Zionist?"

    Not at all Dirk. Criticism is one thing, but demanding that Israel do something that will cause its destruction is another.

    Example... many people are demanding that Israel stop building the wall. Now, I'm open to people criticising the location of the wall, but most critics are demanding that they scrap it altogether.

     

  • At Wed May 31, 12:15:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Mark said…

    At least CC gets it.

    Is that easy enough for you to understand, dirk?

     

  • At Wed May 31, 12:47:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Blake Kennedy said…

    "Blake,
    And your counter argument was? Nigga, please."

    Another homeschool dropout proving he'd lose a read-off to Dexter Manley, here.

    My point was, that you can't do political discourse well and just give fundies fodder to blow you up with. If you lose to that bunch, how lame are you?

     

  • At Wed May 31, 12:49:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Blake Kennedy said…

    "Is that easy enough for you to understand, dirk?"

    Mark, given that we're still finding your body parts washing ashore all across the continent, based on the absolute destructions you've received here before, I'd be awfully slow to call out a guy like dirk.

     

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