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Thursday, October 01, 2009


From Don Martin's list of advice in today's Calgary Herald comes this little BOMBSHELL... a "prominent" Liberal MP has admitted that he (or she, who knows!) has at least considered jumping the sinking S.S. Liberal, with Capt. Iffy going down with the ship, and joining the Harper Government.

From Don Martin's article: "This is a very speculative rumble, but at least one prominent MP has quietly mused to me about crossing the floor to join the Conservatives."


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  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 11:59:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I'm not so sure I would want to see any Liberals crossing the floor. While it would make for great PR and any move to get the Conservatives closer to a majority is a move in the right direction. However, it would also further dilute the ranks of conservatives in the caucus. Anyone who is a Liberal is by nature a so-called 'progressive' and we have enough of those already in Mr. Harper's government. We don't need to drift any further to the left.
    In addition, I believe that people who want to switch parties should stand for election when their constituents can have a say as to whether or not they want to be represented by someone with the philosophical bent of the party to which they are switching. To do so during an interregnum between elections seems to me to be crassly opportunistic. Party switchers, in my opinion, only do so because they want to hang onto their privileged position or have been offered some incentive.
    If you want to switch, you should resign your seat and run in a by-election. Loyalty counts in my world.

  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 12:15:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Paul M said…

    Please no Floor-Crossers! It was wrong when that loud-mouth Turner jumped to the Liberals, it would be wrong the other way to.

    Let's get a majority the dignified and principled way.

  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 12:16:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Bert said…

    Of course, the liberals will scream about how undemocratic this is, and how there should be a by-election if the MP does cross the floor. After all their constituant's voted for a liberal. They will conviently forget about Belinda Stronach. I still remember Paul Martins sickening smile as they greeted her after she crossed over to the dark side.

  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 12:33:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Rose21 said…

    Floor crossings are not illegitimate and members should not have to run for re-election to do these. They are a part of the Parliamentary system. If you put restrictions on them, then the result is disfunction in a particular party -- If I hate my leader, but know I will have to run another election if I cross, then I stay with the party, but am secretly not onside. The Emerson backlash was excessive and not helpful to anyone. Bribing people to cross is not good -- but if they wish to cross, they should not be prevented and they should be welcomed by the other party. In the case of possible Lib crossings, I think there are plenty of centrists who would fit easily under Lib or Conservative banner. Harper gov is to the right -- but only slightly. Libs are becoming increasingly left/left, and this must make some Liberals uncomfortable.

  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 12:37:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Swift said…

    Do we really want some of the prominent Liberals such as Fry, Coderre, Rae, or Volpe. They would probably want cabinet posts, but we have much better still on the back benches.

  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 12:51:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger wilson said…

    Mps have every right to cross the floor,
    what they don't have a right to is a reward for doing so.
    Cross away, if the back bench suits them.
    I'd rather see a small Blue Lib breakaway party vote with the government, thusly forming a stable majority.

  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 12:57:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Don't let them cross the floor. They should stay as Liberals until the election is called and then state that as a group you have become confidant the the PM is looking out for Canadians. Resign from the LPC and then run as Conservatives.
    Liberal nuking, anyone?

  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 12:58:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Please, no more crypto-liberals in our party. If that MP is not happy with Iggy they should sit as an independent and vote with the conservatives.

  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 01:10:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Calgary Junkie said…


    I disagree. Let them sit as an independent, but don't let them into our caucus. The main reason is that this would distract from Harper's "economy, economy, economy" message.

    The media would go into a frenzy, searching out million dollar insurance policies that were offered to the floor-crosser, and other ridiculous stuff. Plus, it would muddy the waters re Harper's "no back room deals" narrative. We don't need all the distractions and headaches.

  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 01:17:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Babylonian777 said…

    Agreed! No floor-crossers for goodness sake.

    I mean, we had an exception when conservative minded Liberals like Joe Commouzi from T.B. came aboard, but we need to be watchfull. Tom Wappel would be an exception (I don't think he is in politics anymore). Even so though, they need to be elected. If Harper wants to give them an ear as independents, that would be the SMART and DIPLOMATIC thing to do, but no need for them to join.

    Let's not get too giddy with the current Liberal/Rosedale/"Liberal Party of Toronto (LPT) misfortunes, the turtle will win the race in this case. The Hare is not only taking a nap, but seems to have his friends dragging him closer to the starting line.

  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 02:37:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger MrEd said…

    tend to agree with the independant seat idea... they were not nominated as a CPC member and have not been to any of the meetings as it were...

    the reason the Liberals have former NDP members like Boob Rae and Uzzy Doze-on is because they know fedrally they have no chance at Power as NDP...

    If when the rit falls and the GG desolves parlament they want to run as the member for the opposite party than if they get the nomination and win the seat so be it!

    There should be no free ride and last I checked Politics is a blood sport so think before you start walking across the floor of the colosium people and be sure you can get past the party whip and all the other things it's going to cost you...

    What they do need are more free votes where MP's can vote to represent the needs of their constituits regardless of party color

  • At Thu. Oct. 01, 05:07:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous jgriffin316 said…

    Do we really want some of the prominent Liberals such as Fry, Coderre, Rae, or Volpe.

    No, but how about prominent right winger like Iggy ;)

    Actually, that might not be such a good idea as the Liberals would bash the Conservatives for being to pro-American...

  • At Wed. Oct. 07, 07:07:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I've been wathing the body language of our MP Rota. He doesn't look happy, almost an embarrassed look, and he is a high level Lib. If he is 'the one' I would prefer that he sit as an independent. That would give a strong message to the die hard Libs in our area to wake up and smell the roses!
    The msm, Martin included, have dropped innuendo continually about tension in the CPC caucas, in an attempt to deflect and disturb.I doubted them.But Libs have more reason for discontent. And they are buddies with the PPG. So this time I believe Martin.



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