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Tuesday, April 14, 2009

Iggy: "Read my lips... YES NEW TAXES"


Oh man... if I'd had any inkling that those words were gonna come out of his mouth, I'd have dropped everything and booted on over to the Cambridge Chamber of Commerce breakfast meeting this morning. I mean, think of it this way... if you had the opportunity to watch history unfold as leader of your Federal opponents single-handedly scuttle their electoral chances, wouldn't you make the trip just so you could say you were there?
Tax hike likely unavoidable, Liberal leader says
April 14, 2009 - Record Staff

CAMBRIDGE -- Federal taxes must go up to pay off Canada’s increasing debt, Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff said today.

The challenge, he said, is to ensure the economic recovery is not hurt by raising the taxes, Ignatieff told about 100 people at a Cambridge Chamber of Commerce breakfast meeting.

Ignatieff’s comments were in response to a question from Cambridge business leader John Bell, who wanted to known when the federal debt will be paid back.

“We will have to raise taxes,” but not at the expense of hurting the recovery from this recession. He added that “an honest politician” cannot exclude a tax hike as an option.

“I am not going to load a deficit onto your children or mine,” Ignatieff said.
His speech centred on the need for the federal government to unite people rather than divide them during these trying economic times.

He also slammed Tory Finance Minister Jim Flaherty for labelling this recession as mild.
“You wonder what country he is in,” Ignatieff said.

He criticized the federal governement for not quickly freeing money in the federal stimulus package. He said the government should give municipalities the money, as they are in a better position to know how to spend it.
h/t to Joanne

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  • At Tue. Apr. 14, 10:32:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hello. I'm a proud Christian (evangelical, as well). In the last election in Canada, many Christians participated in slandering Dion. I couldn't stand Dion either, but I was uncomfortable with Christians trying to justify it. I hope fellow Christians, this time around, will disagree with candidates on the issues, and not descend into questionable behaviour not becoming of anyone bearing the identity of "Christian."

    I say this because, as a Christian, there is no one political party that all Christians are naturally supposed to vote for. We all have minds of our own. I hope this blog will be responsible and fair in the future.

  • At Tue. Apr. 14, 11:20:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Someone suggested that the CPC wouldn't have to write any campaign ads. Iggy just keeps writing them.

  • At Wed. Apr. 15, 12:20:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Ontario Blue Tory said…

    C'mon CC, that's an unfair comparison, to link his quote to GHW Bush. I was more thinking of Mondale's "Mr. Reagan will raise taxes, and so will I. He won't tell you. I just did."

    Whoever claims history is not cyclical should take a cue from Iggy.

  • At Wed. Apr. 15, 09:10:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    At least he had the balls to say it.

    The fact of the matter is, we do have debt. Granted, my preference would be to shift program spending to debt repayment as opposed to tax hikes but at least he's cognizant of the fact that WE OWE MONEY that must be repaid.

    I'm not a Liberal, but he could have said a lot worse stuff instead.

    Mike Wisniewski

  • At Wed. Apr. 15, 01:37:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger RevDave said…

    Whatever his other faults, I'm not sure Iggy was far off when he made the point about taxes needed to pay for bigger budgets.

    You're placing yourself in the interesting position of gloating over the fact that he's going to lose for probably telling the truth.

  • At Wed. Apr. 15, 01:57:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Not so RevDave, he's telling "the truth" only from his ideological POV... as a self described "tax and spend, Pearsonian/Trudeau Liberal", yes, he'd have to raise taxes in order to fund his Statist "Big Government" vision.

    In reality, however, when the economy begins its turnaround (of course ideas on when that will occur is a matter for further debate) revenues will increase, naturally. If whoever is in charge is fiscally prudent, there should be no need to increase taxes.

    Which is where Iggy's "Truthiness" comes into play. Yes, if he plans to increase spending with massively bloated Liberal social programs, he'll need to raise taxes.

    However, were he to be more fiscally prudent, there should in theory be no need to reverse the tax cuts implemented by Mr. Harper's government.

  • At Wed. Apr. 15, 02:14:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger RevDave said…

    You're right, of course, but I search in vain for fiscally prudent governance these days. At this point, barring some pretty incredible growth, we would probably have to raise taxes to pay for the consequences of either Harper or Ignatieff.

    To say nothing of Layton.

  • At Wed. Apr. 15, 02:27:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    "To say nothing of Layton."Well said! Of course, that's one of the many other things that frightens me about Ignatieff... should he win a minority, which is his only realistic chance other than losing to Harper, he'd have to rely on the NDP's support to govern... and you know where that will take us in terms of "fiscal prudence".

  • At Wed. Apr. 15, 07:19:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Red Tory said…

    And how does Harper plan on paying down the massive $80 billion debt he's created?

    You're worried about "fiscal prudence"? It is to laugh.

  • At Thu. Apr. 16, 07:29:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Don't Tase Me, Bro! said…

    Just to let you know, I recently got baptized on Easter Sunday. I know that by accepting Him as my Lord and Savior, through Him I am changed. So I'm going to try to take a more respectful tone as I point out an obvious hypocrisy to the Tories' reaction to Iggy's statement.

    I don't believe Iggy said in that answer that he was going to raise taxes immediately if he became PM. What he said was, since these deficits will be with us long term, raising taxes is an option that the federal government has to look at. I'm not an economist, but I believe that governments need some revenue to pay down deficits and debt, and they usually get their money from taxes.

    As for the Conservatives, I wouldn't talk if I were them since they were the ones who brought in the GST in 1991 to, well, among other things pay down the deficit, and I'll admit it worked during the 1990s. It's kind of unfortunate that Harper, an economist, did not realize that as he started cutting it gradually and it's one of the reasons why government lost revenue that could have gone to (since there was no deficit at the time) pay down debt.

    It's really sad to see the way the Tories just go out with guns blazing without looking at some of the facts.


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