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I'm an evangelical Christian, member of the CPC, but presently & unjustly exiled to wander the political wilderness.
All opinions expressed here are solely my own.

Monday, January 08, 2007

Stem Cells and "Red Tory"

Red Tory has put up a post about a possible new souce of ethical stem cells. But instead of just hailing this as a fantastic breakthrough and celebrating, he had to go and turn it into an attack on us so-cons. Ever get the feeling that you're really hated by someone?

The basic premise of the article he links to is that researchers at Harvard may have found a new source of ethical stem cells, from amniotic fluid. I actually agreed with Red Tory on this... this is a GREAT thing. I've never opposed stem cell research, but I've ALWAYS been 100% against EMBRIONIC stem cell research... which involves the killing of the unborn to harvest the stem cells.

Anyway, I replied to him in his comments section:
"??? Why on earth are you so negative towards us so-cons? It's clear that you really haven't been listening in all this, so here goes...

The problem has always been with EMBRIONIC stem cells... I too see this report as a great breakthrough. When I heard it on the news, I stopped what I was doing, and said "FANTASTIC! Maybe now we can make some medical breakthroughs that don't involve the murder of the unborn."

It's not about finding "wedge issues", it has always been, and always will be, about protecting life. We so-cons just define life as starting from conception... even if it's in a petre dish."
Maybe there's hope for rational and reasoned discussion with his type on issues that matter, but with posts like his, I don't hold out much hope.

(and for the record, I really hope I'm wrong RT)


  • At Mon. Jan. 08, 09:18:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous torontocrawler said…

    Red Tory is an idiot and a hack in the same category as Cherniak and McLelland... why other bloggers even bother to acknowledge his existence I don't know... it gives him credibility he doesn't deserve.

  • At Mon. Jan. 08, 09:22:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Red Vein said…

    This week Americans observed a national day of mourning (I'm speaking not of President Ford's funeral, but rather the day that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi seized power in Congress).

    Far-left political ideologies are being promulgated through ever-increasing mediums, and recently I noticed that a once-vaunted American television network, The Weather Channel, had succumbed to the cancerous spread of liberalism.
    The Weather Channel is now engaged in a con job on the American people, attempting to scare the public that their actions are destroying the planet by creating a global warming crisis.

    The move away from scientific forecasting of the weather to sensationalized leftist political advocacy is in part due to the influence of Wonya Lucas, executive vice president and general manager of The Weather Channel Networks.
    Media Village reported that the move by The Weather Channel "is intended to establish a broader perspective on the weather category and, says Lucas, to move the brand from functional to emotional."

    Emotional weather forecasting?

  • At Mon. Jan. 08, 10:47:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous TO TORY said…

    Red Tory? When you shill for the Liberals like that guy, you don't deserve the name Tory. Brian Mulroney would tear that guy a new one. "Red Tory" should watch this video.

    Red Tory is not a Tory plain and simple.

  • At Mon. Jan. 08, 11:02:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Perhaps a Dalton Camp/Joe Clark/David Orchard style Tory... which, as you said, is not a Tory at all.

  • At Tue. Jan. 09, 09:00:00 a.m. EST, Blogger ShadesofGrey said…

    Well, I would agree that Joe Clark has not done the (new) Tories any favours lately...

    but to accuse this former Prime Minister of not being a Tory is slightly insulting to one of the legacy parties of the new Conservative Party.

    I think it's better to allow for diversity of opinion in the CPC and not start classifying who's a real Tory and who's not.

    I haven't read red tory's blog. So won't comment on it.

  • At Tue. Jan. 09, 09:51:00 a.m. EST, Blogger vicki said… believe the reference to 'not a Tory' was for RT...not for the former PM.

  • At Thu. Jan. 18, 05:25:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous Larry said…

    Actually theirs more than only one method for getting stem cells instead of embronic stem cells thankfully. Would be great if medical science soon can repair and or transplant new cells into humans. But not cloning whole human beings if that is possible, too many terriable things can happen. Besides, one day this solar system will die out. Also cloning humans they still could die by a gun and other ways. Even if the dead could be brought back by cloning they would not be the same person as before.


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