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Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Will Dion sever ties with May?

Lizzy May has done it again... she's said that Kyoto is a greater moral obligation than lives of the six million Jews slaughtered by the Nazis.

Were those the words she used? Nope. Was that the logical conclusion of what she said? Yup. Read for yourself...
"George Monbiot said that the triumvirate of Harper and Bush and Howard blocking action on climate represented a moral failure more culpable than that of Neville Chamberlain. I was variously skewered and attacked last spring for mentioning how Canada’s international reputation had suffered, citing George Monibiot’s statement to make the point.. (No need to revisit the various ways that quoting George Monbiot was viewed as some sort of political equivalent of a kamikaze mission.)

I repeat those words now, not because I thirst for abuse, but because in the light of day, following Canada’s actions in Uganda, they seem an understatement."
Wow... so, let's put it all together and get this straight....

First of all, she repeats her agreement with the statement that because we can't keep our Kyoto commitments (thanks largely to the Liberal Party, for the record), Mr. Harper is guilty of "a moral failure worse" than that of Neville Chamberlain's actions, which culminated in the death of over six million Jews.

Secondly, she says that even that accusation "is an understatement." An understatement? So, let's get this straight... the lives of six million Jews is peanuts compared to what Mr. Harper has done. Did I get that right Ms. May?

Thirdly, Mr. Dion himself said seven months ago, when Ms. May first made this outlandish statement, that he was "uncomfortable" with it, and that it should be withdrawn. His exact quote was, "Climate change is worrisome enough and we don't need to go over the top." Now, rather than withdrawing the statement, she's repeating it. Has Mr. Dion's comfort level with the statement changed?

So, based on what Mr. Dion said seven months ago, and considering Ms. May's apparent disregard for his opinions, there's a whole new question that's arisen... will Mr. Dion distance himself from her comments by severing the ties he has made between himself and the outlandish positions of Ms. May's Green Party?

I'm sure the CJC would like to know the answer to that question.

h/t to Sisco and Janke.


UPDATE: My sincere thanks to "me dere robert", who posted a link in the comments, which totally backfired and has brought to light something that adds more fuel to this little fire. The link provided was to a Maclean's article, talking about how many MP's like to invoke Chamberlain's memory in their rhetoric. However, buried in the article was this little gem:

"With party leaders of all stripes calling on May to retract her statement that the abandonment of Kyoto targets is "a grievance worse than Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of the Nazis," the Green leader relented somewhat on Wednesday and offered a tepid apology."

In that "tepid appology", Ms. May had this to say, “I deeply regret that the inflamed rhetoric around this issue has caused pain or offence.”

Well, it looks like she clearly didn't mean a word of it, since she so willingly re-inflamed this "offence".

So, thanks again to "me dere robert" for posting that Maclean's article!

I'll repeat the question... will Mr. Dion distance himself from these offensive comments by Ms. May?

And while we're at it, let's go for broke and re-ask this question, for the sixth or seventh time... Mr. Dion, did you or did you not have anything to do with Ms. Kovach's ouster from the FCM?

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9 Comments:

  • At Tue Nov 27, 11:09:00 AM EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    That would take leadership. A concept foreign to Mr. Dion.

     
  • At Tue Nov 27, 11:26:00 AM EST, Blogger SouthernOntarioan said…

    I swear that if that woman comes anywhere near me I'm going to give her a piece of my mind. I almost can't wait for the Green party representative to come calling so that I can tear a strip off their party.

    The moral failure of Chamberlain resulted in the capitulation of an entire nation to Nazi rule. Not only was the result the deaths of 6 million Jews, but it culminated in the deaths of tens of millions. Chamberlain could have stopped Hitler with a principled stand, even war would have been avoided as German generals were prepared to overthrow Hitler (seeing a war as being hopeless at that time).

    But outside of a history lesson, the comparison of any current political event to the tragedy of the Chamberlain failure is preposterous. To do it twice is insulting.

     
  • At Tue Nov 27, 12:36:00 PM EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Before you get all bent out of shape with your mock outrage folks, I suggest you do your research about using the Chamberlain thing. It's been done many time before - actually, Peter MacKay was one of them.

    This is just too silly.

     
  • At Tue Nov 27, 12:46:00 PM EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    "Before you get all bent out of shape with your mock outrage folks, I suggest you do your research about using the Chamberlain thing. It's been done many time before"

    The statement by May is only half the issue... how Dion will react, now that Ms. May has said this AGAIN (this is the second time) after Mr. Dion clearly said that she should retract such a statements, is the key to this story.

    The CJC will likely respond with outrage, again, and as Mr. Dion is desperate to hang onto support of Jewish groups like the CJC, the story will be how he reacts to this... it's not so much about Ms. May, because everyone already knew she was a nutbar when she first made the statement seven months ago.

     
  • At Tue Nov 27, 01:20:00 PM EST, Blogger me dere robert said…

    I thought we solved this issue that last time... how you easily forget:



    Chamberlain References

     
  • At Tue Nov 27, 01:37:00 PM EST, Anonymous Brian C. said…

    To be clear, the Chamberlain reference is inexcusable and May embarasses GPC members every time she spouts off like this. If other people make the same stupid comparison and make light of the circumstances surrounding WW2, it doesn't excuse May.

    Can we stop making excuses for Elizabeth May, plz? It was dumb to make the comment once. Twice is simply unbelievable.

     
  • At Tue Nov 27, 01:38:00 PM EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    I didn't forget a thing... let's quote from that article you linked too...

    "With party leaders of all stripes calling on May to retract her statement that the abandonment of Kyoto targets is "a grievance worse than Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of the Nazis," the Green leader relented somewhat on Wednesday and offered a tepid apology."

    In that "tepid appology", she said, “I deeply regret that the inflamed rhetoric around this issue has caused pain or offence.”

    Obviously, she didn't mean a word of it, since she so willingly re-inflamed this "offence".

    Thanks again for posting that Maclean's article! You just successfully painted Ms. May further into the corner!

     
  • At Tue Nov 27, 03:03:00 PM EST, Blogger OMMAG said…

    Did you really mean "SERVER" Ties ....??

    Sorry ... but that Headline gaff just irks to much to ignore!

    As for the Chamberlain reference that Peter McKay used. A little research by an annonymouse commenter would be appropriate. McKay likened Layton's foolish insistence that "Negotiating" with an intransigent and hostile foe would be productive to the same behaviour by Chamberlain.

    It's a vast difference between that and the implication of being a Nazi or Nazi sympathizer that May and others of her party clearly intended. Or have you not heard the Green Party peanut gallery's use of the Nazi and Fascist terms applied to ALL conservatives?

     
  • At Tue Nov 27, 03:30:00 PM EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Yes, thanks for catching that spelling mistake in the title... being a tech, I'm always typing the word "SERVER" so I guess my fingers just followed habit. ;-)

     

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