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I'm an evangelical Christian, member of the CPC, but presently & unjustly exiled to wander the political wilderness.
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Was May sincere when she said "Sorry"?

My sincere thanks to "me dere robert", who posted a link in the comments of my original post on Ms. May's repeat insult to the Jewish community. His comment (which I think was intended to try and make me look foolish, though I can't be certain of that) has totally backfired and has brought to light something that adds more fuel to this little fire.

The link provided was to a Maclean's article, talking about how many MP's seem to like invoking Chamberlain's memory in their rhetoric. However, buried in the article was this little gem:

"With party leaders of all stripes calling on May to retract her statement that the abandonment of Kyoto targets is "a grievance worse than Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of the Nazis," the Green leader relented somewhat on Wednesday and offered a tepid apology."

In that "tepid apology", Ms. May had this to say, “I deeply regret that the inflamed rhetoric around this issue has caused pain or offence.”

When you appologize for something, I think it's a general understanding that you're saying you'll try to avoid doing it again... right? Well, if that's true, it would seem that she didn't really mean a word of that appology, since she so willingly re-ignited the flames of this offence.

Robert, thanks again for posting that Maclean's article.

I'll repeat the question from earlier today... will Mr. Dion distance himself from these offensive comments by Ms. May?

And while we're at it, let's go for broke and re-ask this question, for the sixth or seventh time... Mr. Dion, did you or did you not have anything to do with Ms. Kovach's ouster from the FCM?

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  • At Tue Nov 27, 03:11:00 p.m. EST, Blogger me dere robert said…

    She seems to be apologizing for the "inflamed rhetoric" (like your post for example) that her statement had caused.. not for the statement itself.

  • At Tue Nov 27, 03:12:00 p.m. EST, Blogger me dere robert said…

    oh and glad I could help with the link even though we may interpret it differently.

  • At Tue Nov 27, 03:13:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I don't know where you are employed but I have gleaned from your previous posts that it may be some publicly funded organization; I hope that you have the day off because the number and timing of your posts indicates that you aren't giving your employer an honest days work.

  • At Tue Nov 27, 03:13:00 p.m. EST, Blogger OMMAG said…

    There's no mistake about it the rhetoric of May and many of her supporters holds that conservatives are like Nazis and Fascists.

    The mindset of these people is shaped by those kinds of comparisons and the language is NO accident.
    May was not even going to the intellectual length of reducing the holocaust to the level of the climate debate or elevating the issue of climate change to the tragedy of that evil.

    She was plain and simple calling Harper a Nazi by inference.
    This is the workings of a juvenile , self important and simple mind.

    I say she needs a "Time Out" to say the least!

  • At Tue Nov 27, 03:17:00 p.m. EST, Blogger me dere robert said…

    oh and you are correct she probably shouldn't have said that again... only because of the inflamed rhetoric (such as your post).

    There is nothing wrong with her comments besides that.

  • At Tue Nov 27, 03:28:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Anon... it's a very slow day. I always give my employer an honest day's work, and then some... every one of my co-workers would all agree in a heartbeat.

    Take a closer look at the timestamps... 10ish, then noonish, then mid-afternoon... breaktimes. (this comment is just outside of that, but my boss has no issue with replying like this)

  • At Tue Nov 27, 04:19:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "she probably shouldn't have said that again... only because of the inflamed rhetoric "

    But May KNEW ahead of time that it would be offensive and hurtful, and she STILL did it. Dere Robert takes somewhat of an irresponsible stance but, even so, we agree that May's common sense should have stopped her from her crazy statements.

    Knowing what happened the first time, May has consciously changed the topic from Kyoto to her Chamberlain comparison. Is that good judgement to lose the moral high ground so easily?

  • At Tue Nov 27, 05:07:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Anon@3:13... shock and horror! I'm at home already, I came home before 5:00pm! And I even started late today!

    But just for you, I brought some work home tonight... yea, I'm going to attempt an upgrade to SP2 on a virtual domain contoller that I built a couple weeks ago, to see if our Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2 Active Directory infrastrucute will migrate over sucessfully.

    You see, I can't really do that at the office because if there's a problem, it might inadvertantly migrate over to our live servers and corrupt our AD databases, and we wouldn't want that... my being an admin in the public sector and all.

    Fortunately, my bosses understand that I have to take work home from time to time, so they're pretty flexable about how I manage my time. But hey, no problem... I am employed, after all, to serve the public good.

    But don't worry, there's no need to thank me for all the hours I put in outside of the regular 9-5... you know, the weekend and middle of the night failures, upgrades and what-not.

    Of course, if you'd care to retract your crack about my time management, you're more than welcome to. ;-)

  • At Tue Nov 27, 06:42:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Joanne (True Blue) said…

    Of course, if you'd care to retract your crack about my time management, you're more than welcome to. ;-)

    Or you could simply say, NOYB.

  • At Tue Nov 27, 09:09:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Eric said…

    Oh yes I cringe whenever people make that statement about Chamberlain. Its the most overused analogy.

    And quite frankly its not mock outrage on my part. That you would claim so Mr. Dere is demeaning.

    May's first comments irked me for multiple reasons: The first time she did it she blatantly mixed politics and religion (preaching politics from the pulpit), attacked other Christian groups (claiming Evagenlicals were trying to destroy the world) and then to top things off, made the Chamberlain comparison. She PREPARED this statement! It wasn't 'off the cuff' it was a deliberate and planned comment.

    Now, after she got burned for making that comment she has the gall to repeat it, more forcefully this time, equating Harper with Nazi sympathizers. She has earned every cent of outrage.

  • At Tue Nov 27, 10:11:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    True Joanne, I could have said that, but honestly, it is partially "his business", since I am there to serve the people... and I respect that.

    But I was annoyed with his comment because I try very hard to ensure that I don't "steal" from the taxpayer by slacking off, or skipping off work early, or spend money friviolously (and I do make recommendations over a fair sized budget, for the record), or any of the other things you hear about from the public service. It's my duty to ensure the taxpayers get value for money in paying my wages, and that's something I endeavour to do everyday.

    For the record, I've saved our organization tens of thousands of dollars by doing various projects in-house, instead of contracting out as we had to do in the past. I'm a very careful steward of what I've been entrusted with, so his comments were a personal shot at my character... and it was a baseless one at that.


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