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Friday, September 07, 2007

"Working Families Coalition" Watch

A new group protesting the unethical practices of the Ontario Liberal Party front group, the "Working Families Coalition", has been started... Working Families Coalition Watch.

Good call... this "third party" Liberal front needs to be exposed for what it is. It's a real convinent way for some union types to circumvent the Ontario Elections Act, because they can donate the maximums to the Liberal Party, and then keep the donations flowing for their unethical second front via the "Working Families Coalition".

Where's the accountability? Where's the democracy? Where's the justice?

While it may not be illegal, it's sure unethical.

Of course, I'm not surprised...

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  • At Fri. Sep. 07, 06:35:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Much like the Christian Coalition group?

    Clean your own doorstep before working on others.

  • At Fri. Sep. 07, 07:18:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger SUZANNE said…

    There's a Christian Coalition that donates to an Ontario party?

    Prove it.

  • At Fri. Sep. 07, 08:22:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    How dare you feign such outrage when it's public knowledge that REAL WOMEN funded the entire movement to cut funding for the SWC.

  • At Fri. Sep. 07, 09:49:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Anon at 8:22...too funny! REAL WOMEN is supported by individuals who believe in the principles and purpose set out by the group.Quite different from sly union funding going in the back door to the Liberal party.
    Thanks for giving us credit for getting the government to reduce funding to SWC.Amazing what the common people can do when they set their minds to it!

  • At Sat. Sep. 08, 09:39:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Anon@6:35pm, for the record, I have no links with any such group, so I could hardly "clean my own doorstep", as you put it. Also, if that group exists (I've never even heard of it) they're not spending MILLIONS of dollars acting as an unethical front group for any offical provincal party, as the "Working Familes" group are for the Ontario Liberal Party.

    Anon@8:22, there's a BIG difference between lobbying a government, and spending MILLIONS acting as an unethical front group for policial advertising for a political party in order to allow them to circumvent the Ontario Elections Act spending limits.

    A BIG difference.

  • At Sat. Sep. 08, 11:04:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Reading the previous responses, it has come to me that whenever it's a conservative issue - "it's different".

  • At Sat. Sep. 08, 11:13:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Dirk said…

    Yes, there is that business of the flow of national/local campaign money, which tests the bounds of morality and legality. I hope conservatives don't claim that's somehow different.

    That said, I agree what Working Families is doing is lame. If it turns out they're operating legally, something needs to be done to close this loophole of attack ads by proxy.

  • At Sun. Sep. 09, 08:29:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Here we go again with the national/local campaign expenses hub-bub over nothing...

    I've never been involved in campaign finance before, but from what I've heard, it looks like what went on here was totally above board, and is done all the time by all the parties. Here we go...

    1) National puts together a generic ad that can be customized for each local campaign at a fraction of the cost.

    2) The national campaign, or other local campaigns who have more money than they can spend, transfer those funds to other ridings to help each other out. (this is perfectly legal, as for whether or not other parties do this, I don't know)

    3) The local ridings spend the transfered money buying the pre-produced ad from National, at a fraction of the cost of producing their own ad... the cost of buying the ad is incured by the local campaign, with National being the provider.

    4) It is aired in the local juristiction, incuring a local expence, and is duely reported by the riding as a campaign expense.

    Nothing devious here... everything is duely reported to Elections Canada, no one is trying to evade anything here. As to why Elections Canada all of a sudden took issue with this sort of transaction, and refused to issue the normal refunds due to the ridings, I have no idea, because it's perfectly legal and normal.

    Of course, since EC said no, the Opposition are trying to make a big deal about it... hypocrits.

  • At Sun. Sep. 09, 08:38:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Almost forgot... if you think about it, what the other parties are calling for is to force the Conservatives to pay more than they should have to for services, just because we're smart.

    We Tories are all about cost savings, so we've learned to save costs by developing one ad, then modifying it for the local market, thus saving local campaigns thousands of dollars. Now the other parties are crying foul, just because we can do better than they can with campaign ad costs.

    Is that fair? I think not.


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