ClimateForChange.ca - BUSTED
Humm... could this be an underhanded (and potentially illegal, perhaps?) attempt by the Liberal Party of Canada to smear the Conservative Party?
I'm sorry, but as an IT guy, something like this is unexplainable, unless this is tied right back to the Liberal Party...
Somebody really goofed on this one... and there may be legal remifications related to a "non-profit" being directly linked to a political party.
Great catch there Janke. I think it can be best summed up with the word, "BUSTED".
I'm sorry, but as an IT guy, something like this is unexplainable, unless this is tied right back to the Liberal Party...
IP Information for 64.26.141.35There is no way that an SSL Certificate connected to "stephanedion.ca" would be connected with this site, unless somehow this was site was directly linked to the Liberal Party of Canada, the owners of "stephandion.ca"... you don't just throw around your SSL Certificates willy-nilly!
IP Location: Canada Canada Ottawa Peter Pundy Consulting Inc
Resolve Host: lp1.campaigngear.net
IP Address: 64.26.141.35 [Whois] [Reverse-Ip] [Ping] [DNS Lookup] [Traceroute]
SSL Cert: stephanedion.ca SSL Certificate has expired.
Somebody really goofed on this one... and there may be legal remifications related to a "non-profit" being directly linked to a political party.
Great catch there Janke. I think it can be best summed up with the word, "BUSTED".
7 Comments:
At Thu Aug 23, 05:33:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Why is super sleuth Janke not dealing with some real issues here - like in campaign financing and Elections Canada rules and the CPC -
talk about busted!
At Thu Aug 23, 05:37:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
it would seem that there may just be a trend going on here...
first the "grassroots" nogunnofuneral.ca created by a "group of canadians"...who just happen to work for Bryant's re-election campaign!!
Then it seems that workingfamilies.ca is possibly suffering the same fate.
Now climateforchange.ca???
I'm feeling physically ill...
At Thu Aug 23, 05:52:00 p.m. EDT, rob said…
This post does seem a little silly, considering what's going on with the Conservatives and Elections Canada.
At Thu Aug 23, 08:44:00 p.m. EDT, Brian in Calgary said…
To anonymous 05:33 PM and to Rob:
I realize this post's issue doesn't seem as "glamourous" a topic as ADSCAM or the alleged mistreatment of detainees in Afghanistan. However, think about it. While a political party always has the absolute right to promote whatever legislative agenda it wants, it is always much more impressive if that agenda is promoted by a genuine non-partisan, grass roots organization. It is far less impressive if it is promoted by a partisan organization, however grass roots an organization it may be. To pretend your effort is a non-partisan one when it is really a partisan effort is simply dishonest and sleazy. At least, that's how I see it.
At Thu Aug 23, 11:46:00 p.m. EDT, Unknown said…
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At Thu Aug 23, 11:56:00 p.m. EDT, Unknown said…
There are some comments on Janke's site from tech guys who understand SSL Certificates that take some air out of this scandal balloon. In a nutshell, it looks like the details for the stephanedion.ca site were used when configuring the climateforchange.ca site. Sloppy? Yes. Proof of astroturfing? No.
All this means is that some Liberals are using the same web server and sysadmins as the climateforchange.ca people. This, of course, doesn't rule out the possibility of sleaze, but it's not proof.
At Wed Aug 29, 12:33:00 p.m. EDT, zolton said…
I can see my ancestors arguing with you're ancestors on the validity of racism.
Those white racists actually believed that colored people were less equal then white people.
Wow thats an unfounded belief if I have even heard.
Conservatism... Is this idea legitimate?
What is conservatism to you?
The term left/right were historically coined during the time of kings. If you agreed with the King you sat on his right side, If you disagreed and thought human rights, democracy and individual liberty were important you sat on the left side of the King. Sometimes you were killed, tortured, ostracized and bullied to change your views.
However the knowledge and understanding is pure, and the King who was really not the vessel of god on earth was backwards.:)
Now how have those terms evolved in the last century?
"Left" and "Right" are now just an individuals interpretation of an economic superstructure. Right being pro left being anti.
Everyone would be left if they were honest with themselves.
(unless your some crazy elitist, then I guess change would be bad for you)
Why should people be automaticaly left?
Because capitalism is not perfect
neither is communism. There both quite backwards. Communism doesn't recognize the enviroment as a factor either.
So to hell with ism's! Most people allow themselves to be defined so sharply by a label, when instead they should be the participating factors in shaping the meaning of that label.
Well that is if you want to be a true individual.
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