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Saturday, August 11, 2007

An open letter to Backseat Blogger

Hey there Backseat Blogger,

I've commented before about some of your posts, and I'd just like to ask that you not paint all of us "Christians" with the same brush. Your obvious hatred of all things "Christian" (and I use the term lightly) is clear, and, in my opinion, misguided.

For example, one of your posts today was a direct attack on the Catholic Church, however, you tarred all of us together, once again. Don't forget, there was that rather nasty little incident in 1517 (some obscure guy named Luther) that began a clear division between various branches of the faith, as well as that other split between the Catholic and Orthodox Churches some centruies earlier. Please ensure that you clarify when you direct such attacks. (of course, one of my highschool English teachers couldn't make that distinction either... then again, she was a post-modernist feminist man-hater, so what do you expect?)

As for the church that cancelled the funeral because the veteran was gay, I don't think that was the right decision... though I do understand the delemna that the church officials were going through, as they would not want to appear to support a lifestyle that they viewed as sinful. (for full disclosure, I'm in a similar situation myself presently, as I am not attending a wedding of someone close to me because I do not want to show support of a sinful decision)

Yes, I am a "Christian"... but what does that really mean? It means I am a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ, a believer in His Name, and one who has turned to Him for the salvation of my soul through His shed and precious redeeming blood... blood that was shed for me (and for you too, should you accept His offer of forgiveness) on the cross of Calvary, some 2000 years ago. (actually, it was 1974 years and a couple months ago, if you want to get technical...) What all that means is that I am someone who reads the Bible and takes what it has to say seriously, and try to live my life in accordance with the principles found within its pages. Do I do it well? Not a chance! And there are a great many of us who struggle with the truths contained within its pages, but are seeking to do what is right in His eyes. Please don't just our Master by our mistakes... judge Him for who He is alone! The Lord Jesus is the loving and merciful God who paid such a great price to restore the broken relationship between Himself and His greatest creation... you and I.

Of course, these truths are something that the evil one Satan hates, so obviously he wants to do everything he can to make people like yourself hate all things related to the Lord Jesus Christ. I'd just like to appeal to you today to think twice before making such broad sweeping accusations, and rejecting all things related to Christ because of a few who claim the Lord's Name, and act in ways that don't honour Him as their Lord and Saviour.

Anyway, I won't be able to respond because I'm headed off into the bush for a week... please try to behave everyone, and I look forward to some positive dialouge next week.



  • At Sat. Aug. 11, 09:51:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Luke Coughey said…

    Well said.

  • At Sat. Aug. 11, 10:03:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Methinks thou doth protest too much.

  • At Sat. Aug. 11, 10:05:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Dirk said…

    I see the point that the backseat blogger is trying to make. The idea that a war vet's funeral be canceled because of his sexual orientation is repugnant. A funeral commemorates someone's life -- it's not like it will have any impact on his afterlife.

    The question I've got here is how are some sins worse than others -- at least in the sense that a church would cancel a guy's funeral? Theologically speaking, any sin constitutes separation from God. So did this church assume this guy was sinless before canceling his funeral?

    Not that it's my business, but I'm having trouble understanding how a wedding would represent something that a Christian would not attend in order to not "show support of a sinful decision".

  • At Sat. Aug. 11, 10:14:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Your posting was well said. But really why bother?

    After visiting his blog a couple of times through the Blogging tories link all I saw was a repugnant little smart ass who gets off printing his personal hatred and bitterness on the 'net. It's his tiny claim to fame so why feed it?

    A while back he posted a horrible little video off YOUTUBE about some jerk who terrified a little kid to tears with an incredibly cruel computer trick. A couple of posters wrote in with angry comments. He backpedaled saying that he only posted it to show the person's cruelty.

    Yet if this was true why would he post it under the subject heading "FUNNY", which is what it was under?

    Don't respond to this little dickless. He's not worth the time.

    He hates Christians because they believe there are limits to the way humans should be allowed to behave and spoiled little pissants like him don't like their behavior being limited.
    I like your blog and I admire your dedication to your faith. You show a depth of character that this loser is incapable of.

  • At Sat. Aug. 11, 10:38:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous john said…

    Dirk, I also see the point B.Blogger was trying to make. For what it's worth I disagree with the church's decision on the funeral. Funerals are mostly to comfort the living and this was a very bad call on the part of this church.

    But B. Bloggers hatred of Christians is well documented in his own blog. He is one of the "new style" of tolerant people. Who are tolerant of certain chosen & favoured groups only.

    The thought that not all Christians might agree with a decision made by a small group escapes him.

    It also escapes him that maybe our ever "reliable" news media might have left out some facts in the story that might have led to the church's unfortunate decision.

    B. Blogger willcherry pick only those news stories that portray Christians negatively.

    He hates Christians. So what? Ignore him.

  • At Sat. Aug. 11, 11:28:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    John, Christ ignored no one... He always reached (or reaches, present tense) out to everyone.

    Dirk, our modern day "Christianity" has become really soft on the concept of obedience to the Word of God... we (and a whole lot of people who know this individual) are choosing to not attend an individual's wedding because the person is openly defying several clearly taught commandments from the Word of God by marrying the person they are marrying. Many people have Biblically confronted them, and the individual is refusing to walk in obedience to Christ... and as a result, many have chosen not to participate in what they see as a sinful act.

    There's a lot of details I'm not at liberty to share, so it will be difficult to help you out here... I was just refering to it as an example of having to make a tough choice. ;-)

  • At Sun. Aug. 12, 12:06:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Dirk said…

    I agree with you and CC about backseat blogger. He's more than happy to rant about how all Christians are hateful, prejudiced, and intolerant, while not seeing the irony of his position.

    Discourse like what's on bb's site is hateful, and in my view amounts to religious intolerance, or even discrimination. While I don't agree with the bit about the funeral, I like that CC is calling bb out.

  • At Sun. Aug. 12, 01:34:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Mutton Chops said…

    He is juvenile. Just ignore him.

  • At Sun. Aug. 12, 05:29:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Red Tory said…

    Seeing as you're big on the Word of God, better stay away from the Red Lobster in future. Just a word to the wise... He frowns on the shellfish eating you know, being an abomination (Lev 11:10) and all.

  • At Sun. Aug. 12, 06:08:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Backseat Blogger posts gay pornography on his blog.

    Recently he posted a youtube video of what appeared to be two 14 year old boys lip synching a song. He referred to them as cute "twinks", twink being the gay word for underage male.

    Imagine if a nongay Blogging Tory posted videos of 14 year old girls on his blog and drooled at how sexy they were...he'd be the most widely loathed blogger in Canada!

    The double standard is appalling and it severely condemns the judgement of Stephen Taylor for allowing gay pornography and - there's no polite word for this - pedophilia on the Blogging Tories aggregator, to say nothing of the extreme anti-Christian hatred that Backseat Blogger engages in.

    CC I would have left this comment at Tayor's but he moderates comments and comments that are critical of him dont see the light of day.

  • At Sun. Aug. 12, 08:38:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger The Christian Heretic said…

    we (and a whole lot of people who know this individual) are choosing to not attend an individual's wedding because the person is openly defying several clearly taught commandments from the Word of God by marrying the person they are marrying. Many people have Biblically confronted them, and the individual is refusing to walk in obedience to Christ... and as a result, many have chosen not to participate in what they see as a sinful act.

    You don't attend a wedding (or host a funeral) to support what you think is a sinful act, you do it because the person is someone you care about. I'm sure this acquaintance (I don't say friend because a real friend wouldn't avoid a wedding just because of "sin") understands how you feel by this point so now what you do is go to the wedding regardless of your religious views in order to show support of this person, even if you don't support his actions.

    This is why I consider religion to be negative, because it tries to get us to put doctrine and rules before people. In fact this is what drove me away from "traditional" Christianity about a decade ago. I couldn't live with the bigotry, the fear and the inconsistency inherent in the religion. My understanding of Jesus now is that He came to end religion, not create a new one (certainly not the orthodox understanding, I realize, but then I am a heretic).

  • At Sun. Aug. 12, 10:54:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Sad thing is that most Christians talk alot, but really don't follow Christ's teachings like tolerance, love, etc. Therefore, they are phony hypocrites.

    Also, Christ believed in the separation of church and state and believe one should pray alone. In other words, one should not be making themselves wealthy in "business" of religion which most evangelical leaders are doing and this is disgusting.

    Spewing Bible passages while asking people to send in their truth dollars and living in luxury.

    Your relationship with God and Christ is "one on one" - no middle man getting rich is required

  • At Sun. Aug. 12, 11:35:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous john said…

    Thanks for your input Backseat Blogger. (oops I mean - shh - "anonymous").

  • At Mon. Aug. 13, 11:19:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous Backseat Blogger said…


    i have no idea who anonymous(or is that anonymi??) is/are.

    The one anonymous who accuses me of child pornography(with my posting of a lipsynching youtube) is so over the top as to be laughable.

    and as to the other anonymous who accuses me of being dickless....
    for the record i have a dick, the functioning of which i've never heard any complaints.. lots of groans but no complaints.

    I'd love to know where he got his definition of twink from(he sounds so authoritative!)

    An attractive, boyish-looking, young gay man. The stereotypical twink is 18-22, slender with little or no body hair, often blonde, dresses in club wear even at 10:00 AM, and is not particularly intelligent. A twink is the gay answer to the blonde bimbo cheerleader.

  • At Mon. Aug. 13, 12:28:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Being gay is NOT a lifestyle.
    It's just something people are or are not.

  • At Tue. Aug. 14, 12:40:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous joe said…

    Abandon all hope, anonymous just said that we are, by birth incapable of controlling our urges.

    Back on topic:
    A church is not obliged to hold any funerals, weddings or child dedications for that matter. However it does make a church look a bit foolish to make a big show celebrating the passing the death of someone who would not pass through its doors while living. I can't help think of the funeral of PET.

    I offer condolences to the grieving but think it a bit much to put the church into such a difficult position.

    On a more personal note when my father in law passed we continued with his stance on the "church". He wouldn't go to church while living so we did not take him to church after he passed. He was a decorated WWII vet and was known as a bit of skirt chaser. We decided not to impose on any church and simply had his remains cremated and had a family gathering several weeks later at which he was rarely even mentioned.

  • At Thu. Aug. 16, 05:56:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Jim Baxter said…

    The Season of Generation-Choicemaker
    Joel 3:14 kjv

    The missing element in every human 'solution' is
    an accurate definition of the creature.

    In an effort to diminish the multiple and persistent
    dangers and abuses which have characterized the
    affairs of man in his every Age, and to assist in the
    requisite search for human identity, it is essential to
    perceive and specify that distinction which naturally
    and most uniquely defines the human being. Because
    definitions rule in the minds, behaviors, and institutions
    of men, we can be confident that delineating and com-
    municating that quality will assist the process of resolu-
    tion and the courageous ascension to which man is
    called. As Americans of the 21st Century, we are oblig-
    ed and privileged to join our forebears and participate
    in this continuing paradigm proclamation.

    "WHAT IS MAN...?" God asks - and answers:
    by James Fletcher Baxter (c) AD 2007

    The way we define 'human' determines our view of self,
    others, relationships, institutions, life, and future. Many
    problems in human experience are the result of false
    and inaccurate definitions of humankind premised
    in man-made religions and humanistic philosophies.

    Human knowledge is a fraction of the whole universe.
    The balance is a vast void of human ignorance. Human
    reason cannot fully function in such a void; thus, the
    intellect can rise no higher than the criteria by which it
    perceives and measures values.

    Humanism makes man his own standard of measure.
    However, as with all measuring systems, a standard
    must be greater than the value measured. Based on
    preponderant ignorance and an egocentric carnal
    nature, humanism demotes reason to the simpleton
    task of excuse-making in behalf of the rule of appe-
    tites, desires, feelings, emotions, and glands.

    Because man, hobbled in an ego-centric predicament,
    cannot invent criteria greater than himself, the humanist
    lacks a predictive capability. Without instinct or trans-
    cendent criteria, humanism cannot evaluate options with
    foresight and vision for progression and survival. Lack-
    ing foresight, man is blind to potential consequence and
    is unwittingly committed to mediocrity, collectivism,
    averages, and regression - and worse. Humanism is an
    unworthy worship.

    The void of human ignorance can easily be filled with
    a functional faith while not-so-patiently awaiting the
    foot-dragging growth of human knowledge and behav-
    ior. Faith, initiated by the Creator and revealed and
    validated in His Word, the Bible, brings a transcend-
    ent standard to man the choice-maker. Other philo-
    sophies and religions are man-made, humanism, and
    thereby lack what only the Bible has:

    1.Transcendent Criteria and
    2.Fulfilled Prophetic Validation.

    The vision of faith in God and His Word is survival
    equipment for today and the future. Only the Creator,
    who made us in His own image, is qualified to define
    us accurately.

    Human is earth's Choicemaker. Psalm 25:12 He is by
    nature and nature's God a creature of Choice - and of
    Criteria. Psalm 119:30,173 His unique and definitive
    characteristic is, and of Right ought to be, the natural
    foundation of his environments, institutions, and re-
    spectful relations to his fellow-man. Thus, he is orien-
    ted to a Freedom whose roots are in the Order of the

    At the sub-atomic level of the physical universe quantum
    physics indicates a multifarious gap or division in the
    causal chain; particles to which position cannot be
    assigned at all times, systems that pass from one energy
    state to another without manifestation in intermediate
    states, entities without mass, fields whose substance is
    as insubstantial as "a probability."

    Only statistical conglomerates pay tribute to
    deterministic forces. Singularities do not and are
    therefore random, unpredictable, mutant, and in this
    sense, uncaused. The finest contribution inanimate
    reality is capable of making toward choice, without its
    own selective agencies, is this continuing manifestation
    of opportunity as the pre-condition to choice it defers
    to the natural action of living forms.

    Biological science affirms that each level of life,
    single-cell to man himself, possesses attributes of
    sensitivity, discrimination, and selectivity, and in
    the exclusive and unique nature of each diversified
    life form.

    The survival and progression of life forms has all too
    often been dependent upon the ever-present undeterminative
    potential and appearance of one unique individual organism
    within the whole spectrum of a given life-form. Only the
    uniquely equipped individual organism is, like The Golden
    Wedge of Ophir, capable of traversing the causal gap to
    survival and progression. Mere reproductive determinacy
    would have rendered life forms incapable of such potential.

    Only a moving universe of opportunity plus choice enables
    the present reality.

    Each individual human being possesses a unique, highly
    developed, and sensitive perception of variety. Thus
    aware, man is endowed with a natural capability for enact-
    ing internal mental and external physical selectivity.
    Quantitative and qualitative choice-making thus lends
    itself as the superior basis of an active intelligence.

    Human is earth's Choicemaker. His title describes
    his definitive and typifying characteristic. Recall
    that his other features are but vehicles of experi-
    ence intent on the development of perceptive
    awareness and the following acts of decision and
    choice. Note that the products of man cannot define
    him for they are the fruit of the discerning choice-
    making process and include the cognition of self,
    the utility of experience, the development of value-
    measuring systems and language, and the accultur-
    ation of civilization.

    The arts and the sciences of man, as with his habits,
    customs, and traditions, are the creative harvest of
    his perceptive and selective powers. Creativity, the
    creative process, is a choice-making process. His
    articles, constructs, and commodities, however
    marvelous to behold, deserve neither awe nor idol-
    atry, for man, not his contrivance, is earth's own
    highest expression of the creative process.

    Human is earth's Choicemaker. The sublime and
    significant act of choosing is, itself, the Archimedean
    fulcrum upon which man levers and redirects the
    forces of cause and effect to an elected level of qual-
    ity and diversity. Further, it orients him toward a
    natural environmental opportunity, freedom, and
    bestows earth's title, The Choicemaker, on his
    singular and plural brow.

    Deterministic systems, ideological symbols of abdication
    by man from his natural role as earth's Choicemaker,
    inevitably degenerate into collectivism; the negation of
    singularity, they become a conglomerate plural-based
    system of measuring human value. Blunting an awareness
    of diversity, blurring alternatives, and limiting the
    selective creative process, they are self-relegated to
    a passive and circular regression.

    Tampering with man's selective nature endangers his
    survival for it would render him impotent and obsolete
    by denying the tools of variety, individuality,
    perception, criteria, selectivity, and progress.
    Coercive attempts produce revulsion, for such acts
    are contrary to an indeterminate nature and nature's
    indeterminate off-spring, man the Choicemaker.

    Until the oppressors discover that wisdom only just
    begins with a respectful acknowledgment of The Creator,
    The Creation, and The Choicemaker, they will be ever
    learning but never coming to a knowledge of the truth.
    The rejection of Creator-initiated standards relegates
    the mind of man to its own primitive, empirical, and
    delimited devices. It is thus that the human intellect
    cannot ascend and function at any level higher than the
    criteria by which it perceives and measures values.

    Additionally, such rejection of transcendent criteria
    self-denies man the vision and foresight essential to
    decision-making for survival and progression. He is left,
    instead, with the redundant wreckage of expensive hind-
    sight, including human institutions characterized by
    averages, mediocrity, and regression.

    Humanism, mired in the circular and mundane egocentric
    predicament, is ill-equipped to produce transcendent
    criteria. Evidenced by those who do not perceive
    superiority and thus find themselves beset by the shifting
    winds of the carnal-ego; i.e., moods, feelings, desires,
    appetites, etc., the mind becomes subordinate: a mere
    device for excuse-making and rationalizing self-justifica-

    The carnal-ego rejects criteria and self-discipline for such
    instruments are tools of the mind and the attitude. The
    appetites of the flesh have no need of standards for at the
    point of contention standards are perceived as alien, re-
    strictive, and inhibiting. Yet, the very survival of our
    physical nature itself depends upon a maintained sover-
    eignty of the mind and of the spirit.

    It remained, therefore, to the initiative of a personal
    and living Creator to traverse the human horizon and
    fill the vast void of human ignorance with an intelli-
    gent and definitive faith. Man is thus afforded the
    prime tool of the intellect - a Transcendent Standard
    by which he may measure values in experience, anticipate
    results, and make enlightened and visionary choices.

    Only the unique and superior God-man Person can deserved-
    ly displace the ego-person from his predicament and free
    the individual to measure values and choose in a more
    excellent way. That sublime Person was indicated in the
    words of the prophet Amos, "...said the Lord, Behold,
    I will set a plumbline in the midst of my people Israel."
    Y'shua Mashiyach Jesus said, "If I be lifted up I will
    draw all men unto myself."

    As long as some choose to abdicate their personal reality
    and submit to the delusions of humanism, determinism, and
    collectivism, just so long will they be subject and re-
    acting only, to be tossed by every impulse emanating from
    others. Those who abdicate such reality may, in perfect
    justice, find themselves weighed in the balances of their
    own choosing.

    That human institution which is structured on the
    principle, "...all men are endowed by their Creator with
    ...Liberty...," is a system with its roots in the natural
    Order of the universe. The opponents of such a system are
    necessarily engaged in a losing contest with nature and
    nature's God. Biblical principles are still today the
    foundation under Western Civilization and the American
    way of life. To the advent of a new season we commend the
    present generation and the "multitudes in the valley of

    Let us proclaim it. Behold!
    The Season of Generation-Choicemaker Joel 3:14 KJV

    "I should think that if there is one thing that man has
    learned about himself it is that he is a creature of
    choice." Richard M. Weaver

    "Man is a being capable of subduing his emotions and
    impulses; he can rationalize his behavior. He arranges
    his wishes into a scale, he chooses; in short, he acts.
    What distinguishes man from beasts is precisely that he
    adjusts his behavior deliberately." Ludwig von Mises

    "To make any sense of the idea of morality, it must be
    presumed that the human being is responsible for his
    actions and responsibility cannot be understood apart
    from the presumption of freedom of choice."
    John Chamberlain

    "The advocate of liberty believes that it is complementary
    of the orderly laws of cause and effect, of probability
    and of chance, of which man is not completely informed.
    It is complementary of them because it rests in part upon
    the faith that each individual is endowed by his Creator
    with the power of individual choice."
    Wendell J. Brown

    "These examples demonstrate a basic truth -- that human
    dignity is embodied in the free choice of individuals."
    Condoleeza Rice

    "Our Founding Fathers believed that we live in an ordered
    universe. They believed themselves to be a part of the
    universal order of things. Stated another way, they
    believed in God. They believed that every man must find
    his own place in a world where a place has been made for
    him. They sought independence for their nation but, more
    importantly, they sought freedom for individuals to think
    and act for themselves. They established a republic
    dedicated to one purpose above all others - the preserva-
    tion of individual liberty..." Ralph W. Husted

    "We have the gift of an inner liberty so far-reaching
    that we can choose either to accept or reject the God
    who gave it to us, and it would seem to follow that the
    Author of a liberty so radical wills that we should be
    equally free in our relationships with other men.
    Spiritual liberty logically demands conditions of outer
    and social freedom for its completion." Edmund A. Opitz

    "Above all I see an ability to choose the better from the
    worse that has made possible life's progress."
    Charles Lindbergh

    "Freedom is the Right to Choose, the Right to create for
    oneself the alternatives of Choice. Without the possibil-
    ity of Choice, and the exercise of Choice, a man is not
    a man but a member, an instrument, a thing."
    Thomas Jefferson

    Q: "What is man that You are mindful of him, and the son
    of man that You visit him?" Psalm 8:4
    A: "I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against
    you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing
    and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and
    your descendants may live." Deuteronomy 30:19

    Q: "Lord, what is man, that You take knowledge of him?
    Or the son of man, that you are mindful of him?" Psalm
    A: "And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose
    for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the
    gods which your fathers served that were on the other
    side of the river, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose
    land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will
    serve the Lord." Joshua 24:15

    Q: "What is man, that he could be pure? And he who is
    born of a woman, that he could be righteous?" Job 15:14
    A: "Who is the man that fears the Lord? Him shall He
    teach in the way he chooses." Psalm 25:12

    Q: "What is man, that You should magnify him, that You
    should set Your heart on him?" Job 7:17
    A: "Do not envy the oppressor and choose none of his
    ways." Proverbs 3:31

    Q: "What is man that You are mindful of him, or the son
    of man that You take care of him?" Hebrews 2:6
    A: "I have chosen the way of truth; your judgments I have
    laid before me." Psalm 119:30 "Let Your hand become my
    help, for I have chosen Your precepts."Psalm 119:173

    Genesis 3:3,6 Deuteronomy 11:26-28; 30:19 Job 5:23
    Isaiah 7:14-15; 13:12; 61:1 Amos 7:8 Joel 3:14
    Ecclesiastes 3:1-8


    Sir Isaac Newton
    The greatest scientist in human history
    a Bible-Believing Christian
    an authority on the Bible's Book of Daniel
    committed to individual value
    and individual liberty

    Daniel 9:25-26 Habakkuk 2:2-3 selah

    "What is man...?" Earth's Choicemaker Psalm 25:12

    An old/new paradigma - Mr. Jefferson would agree!
    (Alternative? There is no alternative.)

    + + +

    "Man cannot make or invent or contrive principles. He
    can only discover them and he ought to look through the
    discovery to the Author." -- Thomas Paine 1797

    "Got Criteria?" See Psalm 119:1-176

    semper fidelis
    Jim Baxter
    Sgt. USMC
    WWII & Korean War

    Teacher, 5th Grade - 30 Wonderful years !
    vincit veritas

    "When you come to a fork in the road, take it!"
    - Yogi Berra

  • At Thu. Aug. 30, 11:27:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The church did not cancel the vetran's ceremony. It refused, based on its Christian principles, to allow the funeral to be a pro-gay ceremony.

    This was covered by several US bloggers who clearly indicated that the congregation when confronted with hwat they belived was a conflict with their beliefs did what thei conscience said they must: Refuse to condone or participate.

    This is their right.


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