Harper to lose support over Israel
Some pundits have been saying that due to his pro-Israel stand, Mr. Harper may have lost some support from Arab groups.
Time to weigh in on this. True, he might lose some support from these groups, however, the majority of them are congregated in major urban centres, which are alreay weak in Tory support. So, that might not hurt him too much. However, there are two areas where this might hurt where we need to be strong... the 905, and Montreal, which also have large Arab groups.
But you know what? To have a principled Prime Minister, who's willing to take a stand for what's right, even if it costs him his goal of a majority, is worth it.
I tip my hat to Mr. Harper... a man who's willing to do what's right, even when it hurts.
If that's not worth voting for, then what really is?
Time to weigh in on this. True, he might lose some support from these groups, however, the majority of them are congregated in major urban centres, which are alreay weak in Tory support. So, that might not hurt him too much. However, there are two areas where this might hurt where we need to be strong... the 905, and Montreal, which also have large Arab groups.
But you know what? To have a principled Prime Minister, who's willing to take a stand for what's right, even if it costs him his goal of a majority, is worth it.
I tip my hat to Mr. Harper... a man who's willing to do what's right, even when it hurts.
If that's not worth voting for, then what really is?
posted by Christian Conservative @ 10:28 a.m.
11 Comments:
At Wed Jul 19, 11:05:00 a.m. EDT,
Anonymous said…
I don't know enough about the conflict to be able to take sides, so all I can do is ask, is anyone on either side killing anyone on the other side? If so, I can't in good conscience support that side. If this means that both sides are killing then I can't support either side. I personally suspect that neither side is righteous in this battle and that neither side should be supported, but again, I don't know enough about the conflict to say that with any certainty.
At Wed Jul 19, 11:27:00 a.m. EDT,
Carolyn Gardner said…
You also have to keep in mind that the media has always been anti-Israel and it would appear that they have nothing better to write about then a story about nothing.
At Wed Jul 19, 12:04:00 p.m. EDT,
Anonymous said…
CC,
I'm curiuous why you're so quick at labelling 'Unconditional Support of Isreal' as the "Right thing to do"?
It seems to me, that Isreal's response has been a little disproportional. Of course, I support Isreal's right to exist (same as you) and I am supportive of a proportional response to terrorist activities. However, there is blood on the hands of both side's in this fight and I truly feel that unequivocal support of either side certainly isn't the "Right thing to do" (unless you mean 'right' as in 'right-wing'... then I fully agree with you!!!)
My opinion is applied to supporters of Hezbollah, such as Syria and Iran as well...
Cheers,
Mike
At Wed Jul 19, 12:26:00 p.m. EDT,
Anonymous said…
Drew it's pretty simple. Hamas and Hezbola attacked Israel and Israel has responded to that. People have been killed by both Israel and the terrorists it's true. You must be french drew, you must be french.
At Wed Jul 19, 12:37:00 p.m. EDT,
Christian Conservative said…
I think the level of support given is indeed correct, because I don't think Israel's response has been "disproportionate".
Their stated goal is to "eliminate Hezbollah's ability to fire rockets into our country, and to recover our soldiers that were kidnapped in an unprovoked attack within our borders". In the various attacks, areas have been targeted as either transportation routes that might be used to ferry the soldiers into Syria or Iran (at which point, Israel cannot retrieve them) or they are manned Hezbollah positions.
Hezbollah has intentionally chosen to locate these facilities within civilian areas in an attempt to use their own people as human shields. As such, Israel has dropped leaflets instructing civilians to "get out of the area" when an attack is to take place. (video of this is available online, at CNN I'm told) The fact that these warnings are ignored I don't think can be charged to Israel.
Let's think about this... Israel is trying to minimize casualties by targeting Hezbollah positions only, and providing warning in advance if these positions are within civilian centres. Hezbollah is intentionally locating their positions within civillian centres to use them as human shields, and is providing no warning whatsoever to the Israeli civilains they are directly targeting.
Who do you choose to support? I'm not saying there is no blood on Israel's hands, but they are actively trying to limit civilain casualties, while Hezbollah is actively trying to inflict them.
Also, Hezbollah is seeking to discredit Israel on the international stage by causing these Lebonese casualties, again by placing their positions within civilian centres.
Looks like it's working too. The West is so gulliable, and Hezbollah is playing us like a fiddle.
Again... cudos to Harper.
Like Bush said... the way to peace in the Mid-East is for Hezbollah to quit doing this... you know, stuff.
At Wed Jul 19, 12:38:00 p.m. EDT,
Christian Conservative said…
(pssst... Drew's not French)
At Wed Jul 19, 12:54:00 p.m. EDT,
Anonymous said…
CC.
I can see your point that Isreal is trying to limit civilian casualties and in their bombing raids on civillian centre's, you're certainly correct. Kudo's to them for that effort...
However, take into consideration, the bombing of bridge's and the countries only international airport, along with the naval blockade... This severly affects all the citizens of the country, not just Hezbollah. In fact, it's also affected our country, since it would be far easier to evacuate the Canadian's there if the country had a usable airport (no need to charter ships and bring them all to Cyprus, if we could just fly them out).
My point is, Hezbollah started it by killing and capturing Isreal's soldier's, that much is very true and Isreal needed to respond to that. But using a bazooka to kill a fly is going too far.
Just my thoughts though, worth about 2 cents in my opinion, but that's about it!
Cheers,
Mike
At Wed Jul 19, 02:18:00 p.m. EDT,
Anonymous said…
Definitely not french. Never been to France, don't speak more than a few words of french. Personally I don't believe in nationalism at all though, so I don't support Israel's right to exist, but then I don't support Lebanon's or Canada's or the United States' or any other country's right to exist either. When both countries and religions are no more then maybe there will be a little more peace in the world (though probably not, humans like to find things to fight about).
At Wed Jul 19, 02:21:00 p.m. EDT,
Christian Conservative said…
Knocking out the transportation infrastructure, from what I understand, has a twofold goal... 1) prevent ease of transport of the kidnapped soldiers to Syria or Iran (hence the airport was taken out FIRST) and 2) to hamper efforts to get more support to Hezbollah in the south.
However, once this is over, it would be a nice gesture for Israel to offer assistance in re-building the system.
At Wed Jul 19, 02:34:00 p.m. EDT,
Christian Conservative said…
Drew, thanks for putting the song "Imagine" in our heads... now I will have to kill you... ;-)
But really, I'm looking forward to that day too... when the Lord Jesus Christ returns and sets up His kingdom... with Jerusalem as it's capital.
Only then will peace be achieved.
At Thu Jul 20, 12:42:00 a.m. EDT,
Blake Kennedy said…
Yes and no. Obviously the Lebanese government is allowing Hezbollah to pull its crap, renege on agreements, et cetera, and Israel can't let that go unpunished. Problem is, that it begets a vicious cycle. But so does doing nothing. Allowing Hezbollah to continue these attacks will just embolden them - they need to know if they get out of line, they'll die.
It's just a sad situation and will never change. It's been going on since the Old Testament, when the Israelite national God cheerled the Israelites as they slaughtered all the other nations in the area and their national gods with them. Nothing's ever going to change there, and not one side is in the right. (Sorry, Dave Hunt.)
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