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Tuesday, December 22, 2009

Colvin - The Diplomat who cried wolf?

As some have noticed, I haven't bothered to wade into the whole Afghan torture "allegations" issue all that much because, well, it's a non-issue for me. So expect this to be all you'll hear from me on it.

First of all, as we've been reminded by our Canadian Forces, the only people who were handed over were people who were either "caught in the act", or who tested postive for GSR... gunpowder residue. I'm sorry, but I just have a hard time getting worked up over protecting people who've been caught red-handed with guns, or roadside bombs. (And I thought the lefties were all about gun control... just not in Afghanistan, I guess...)

Second of all, did you ever hear the story of the boy who cried wolf? It's my guess, and this is admittedly total speculation on my part, that the Mr. Colvin's memos on this issue got routienly ignored, perhaps even with a roll of the eyes, and the recipiants probably even said "Oh great, here he goes again" every time they got such an e-mail.

I mean come on, admit it, we all have one or two of those people that we work with. People that have an "issue" that they're always harping on, and when we get a message from that person, we just roll our eyes and think "Oh what are they whining about now."

The one line we've been hearing over and over again from the Government and the Military is that no "substantiated" allegations were brought forward. Meanwhile the Opposition are pointing to the Colvin memos as "proof" that there were such allegations. But if his memos weren't acted upon because he was regarded as a boy crying wolf, well then, how exactly can anyone hold the Government he held accountable for that?

So maybe he got it right ONCE, after all the years of harping on the issue. But unfortunately, the one time he may have been right got drowned out by all his other memos.

Just like that poor little boy... the one time he was right, no one listened to him, and it was his own fault.

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  • At Tue Dec 22, 12:09:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    something like this though...

    wouldn't it be better to punish a boy crying wolf than to ignore a serious allegation from someone with a track record of "crying wolf"?

    Then again, I'm biased because, who the heck are we kidding, I'm usually the one who gets eyes rolled at.

    Mike Wisniewski

  • At Tue Dec 22, 12:30:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I believe the real issue should be the Liberal Government detainee transfer agreement. The Liberal Government transfer agreement did not consider the Geneva Convention guidelines for Prisoners. I think some answers Canadians deserve are; Were the Geneva guidelines overlooked intentionally? Did the Liberal Government turn a blind eye to the Geneva Conventions guidelines towards POWs? Did the Liberals want a no holds bar detainees interrogation? Why were these rules left out of the original detainee transfer agreement? This is what Canadians and the MSM should be asking. When I think about it, it almost seems like the Liberals are playing cover-up and trying to keep the focus on the current Government.

    I hope this inspires some discussion and answers.


  • At Tue Dec 22, 01:36:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Bruce said…

    If her were always crying wolf, why was Mr. Colvinpromoted to a Washington Post, instead of a posting to NOvosibirsk? Secondly teh greater question is about why no action was taken by politicians despite teh Red Cross discussing issues with at least 2 ministers.

  • At Tue Dec 22, 02:45:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    As a Christian can we ever condone torture in any circumstances? Certainly to early romans Christians must have seemed like insurgents.

    I think we should live the bible and not just preach it.


  • At Tue Dec 22, 03:03:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Lynn said…

    This entire issue is simply the LPC trying to make hay at the expense of the CPC,nothing more. Is anyone actually so naive they believe these politicians give a damn about terrorist POW's who've violated the sacred Geneva Convention by their own actions?

    We should all be a lot more concerned about OUR SOLDIERS, and quit the "moral high ground" BS.

    Take no prisoners, boys, to hell with the Taliban and Al-Quaeda terrorists.


  • At Tue Dec 22, 03:05:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Hey Mike, I most certainly can't condone torture, however, that's not what this debate is about... it's about the alleged allegations of torture, which seem to have been made by one man, who's reports were discounted or ignored for one reason or another.

    The Opposition has succeded on this issue because they've made it about torture... which most people would never support. But it's NOT about torture, it's about one man who's reports weren't considered worth the paper they were written on... allegations which for the record have never been proven.

  • At Tue Dec 22, 10:12:00 p.m. EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I guess what I'm saying is that the implication that you couldn't get worked up because there was evidence that the individuals in question might have done something bad.

    The implication being that it is okay if the allegations are true because these are bad people.

    Regardless if they are bad or not we should evaluate the credibility of the "one individual" with the assumption that if true we are doing something "un Christian"


  • At Mon Dec 28, 02:01:00 p.m. EST, Blogger maryT said…

    Any inquiry will lead right back to the liberals.
    Re supporting torture, I ask this question.
    You are booked for a return flight from London and must first land in the USA. You know that a failed bomber has said there are 25 trained muslims planning to blow up planes.
    Would you condone a little torture of this guy to find out if your flight is targeted. Would you believe what he said.
    The Colvin accusations go back to 2006. Liberal rules were in place.
    Why did Graham condone the torture of captured prisoners. Colvin says take fewer prisoners, does that mean he condones killing them instead.


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