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Monday, September 29, 2008

Elizabeth May: Playing the "Nazi" card since 1978

Came across this one by accident, while looking at old CBC archival footage of Stephen Harper and Stephane Dion.

Apparently, Elizabeth May is really fond of likening her opponents or their methods to the Nazi's. She's been called out twice for it in recent months, but thanks to the CBC Archives, we see it's really just old hat for her. You see, she was interviewed about forestry issues in Nova Scotia way back in 1978... where we have what may be her first recorded use of the "Nazi" card when attacking her opponents.

From the CBC Archives:

Well, it's 30 years later, and she's still sticking to the same game plan. Wonder if she'll play it again on Mr. Harper in the upcoming debates this week.

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  • At Mon. Sep. 29, 03:17:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Alberta Girl said…

    I wonder if Liz ever thinks of her global warming preaching in that regard - if you tell a big enough lie; often enough people are gonna believe it.

    I would say she hit the nail on the head as far as the "climate change" religion is concerned.

  • At Mon. Sep. 29, 03:34:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Fred said:

    "she was just as aggravating back then."

    Hey Fred, even variations of the misuse of The Lord's Name aren't cool here. Comment modified. ;-)

    Just a reminder.

  • At Mon. Sep. 29, 04:16:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Sorry Mike... you know I can't publish all of that comment. ;-)

    Anonymous said:

    "I try to shy away from Nazi-comparisons.

    Being the grandson of an interned Polish soldier, I feel using the Nazi-comparison trivializes what people like my grandfather went through.

    Example, I don't like ...
    [EDITED DUE TO PAST AND UNFOUNDED THREAT OF LEGAL ACTION] but I think you would agree that I've never called anyone a Nazi because of it. A lot of things, yes, but never a nazi.

    I wish Elizabeth May could appreciate that point.

    My 2 cents

    Mike Wisniewski"

  • At Mon. Sep. 29, 07:02:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Lonecrow said…

    I am still surprised to find people calling global climate change a lie.

    So for AlbertaGirl's benefit here is a list of people who disagree with her:

    “It is time for the private sector to assume its rightful place as a major catalyst for environmental change...”
    “Global warming is a technical fact. It's caused by man.”
    “We believe we can improve the environment and make money doing it...”
    — Jeff Immelt CEO General Electric (The second largest corrporation in the world)

    “The case for action on climate change is a moral as well as a practical one, a challenge to the world's rich and powerful nations to act with justice towards future generations and to the world's poorest.”
    — The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams

    “Climate Change is one of the most urgent issues for the world to tackle. We, G8 Finance Ministers, recognize that the international community has been making considerable efforts, but that there is still much to do.”
    “Private sector engagement is essential in effectively addressing climate change including, most importantly, industries’ investment in clean technology and R&D as well as improved energy efficiency.”
    — G8 Finance Ministers Report (Finance Ministers of worlds eight largest economies)

    "We were one of the first energy companies to acknowledge the threat of climate change; to call for action by governments, our industry and energy users; and to take action ourselves. We have stepped up our appeals to government for urgent and wide-ranging policies, and our own efforts to develop the technologies needed to reduce CO2 emissions from our operations and products."
    -Shell Oil (Largest petroleum company in the world)

    "Warming of the climate system is unequivocal."
    "Most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic (human) greenhouse gas concentrations."
    -Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (The leading scientific body for review of cliamte research internationally)

    "My Administration takes the issue of global climate change very seriously."
    -George W. Bush (President of the United States)

    "Human-Induced Climate Change is Real"
    "Now is the time for followers of Christ to help solve the global warming crisis."
    Signatories to 'Climate Change: An Evangelical Call to Action'
    Signed by hundreds of Christian Leaders

    I think what many conservatives fail to appreciate is that we have moved way beyond the question "is climate change happening", and the question of how much was caused by human activity is pretty much irrelevant. The questions now are how can we best deal with the effects of it.

    Nobody who understands the issue is talking about "stopping" climate change. All we can hope for now is to be better prepared for the catastrophes to come.

    If that sounds like an anti-hope message all I have to say is that flat out denial is far worse.

  • At Tue. Sep. 30, 08:49:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous Alberta Girl said…

    "I think what many conservatives fail to appreciate is that we have moved way beyond the question "is climate change happening", and the question of how much was caused by human activity is pretty much irrelevant. The questions now are how can we best deal with the effects of it."

    Sorry - I have lived long enough to have seen the cooling and warming several times over. History tells us that the earth has gone through these cycles before.

    I notice no dates attached to those quotes - as you obviously realize - many people who jumped on the global climate change bandwagon have since changed their minds now that new evidence has come out.

    Should we reduce our emissions; absolutely; should we take care of our water systems - you bet; should we reduce what we use to be good stewards on this planet - of course. But to focus on reducing carbon dioxide (something plants actually need to LIVE;) as the sole cause of the change in our climate (note that it is now cooling???) is ludicrious.

    So for all your quotes "for" global warming - er climate change; I can find just as many against. It is not settled and only time will prove that.

    Liz was right.

  • At Tue. Sep. 30, 02:37:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "CC", your blog, your rules.

    But in the conversations we've had about the thing we can't talk about, you must concede I've never called anyone a "nazi"

    Mike Wisniewski

  • At Tue. Sep. 30, 02:51:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Yes Mike, you've been a good boy. Here, have a cookie. ;-)

  • At Tue. Sep. 30, 03:40:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I prefer chocolate chip myself.


    Mike Wisniewski

  • At Tue. Sep. 30, 05:38:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Chocolate chip? I have only one thing to say to that...


  • At Wed. Oct. 01, 11:05:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    How can you boo chocolate chip cookies? Really? I thought everyone loved chocolate chip cookies!

    Mike Wisniewski

  • At Wed. Oct. 01, 11:16:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    How can you boo Gloria? Really? I thought everyone loved a hard-working Conservative candidate! ;-)

  • At Wed. Oct. 01, 12:23:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I'd answer that BUT...

    your blog, your rules, remember ;)

    Mike Wisniewski

  • At Sat. Oct. 04, 04:24:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Finally saw the Coren show.

    It was a good watch

    U-Toob's a beautiful thing

    Mike Wisniewski


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