The future of this blog... what is it?
I've been thinking a lot lately, and have a lot of reasons to consider why, if at all, this "wii" little blog ought to continue.
One thing that I set out to do from the early days was to ensure that there was a forum for people of faith within the political realm to express their views and concerns regarding our political process. Canadians who are Christians have expressed to me, over the years, their concern that there seems to be no place for people with a Christian worldview within our political process. I disagreed with them, and have sought through this blog to prove them wrong. It seems, after a lot of reflection, that I may have been the one who was wrong.
I haven't come to any firm conclusions as of yet, but I do know that things will likely be changing around here in one way or another. I have had a blast doing this, and along the way, I've learned a lot. I thought I'd share some of what I've found in my two years of doing this.
1) There is significant hostility towards faith in the political sphere. Most noteably, and this fact is proven by literally hundreds of comments in my two plus years doing this, there is a latent and permiating hostility towards evangelical Christians on the part of the left, most specificially within the youth membership of Liberal Party of Canada... with even a slight (but more tolerant overall) dose of it within the youth membership of the CPC. Overall, it seems that the belief within people of all political stripes is that it would be better for everyone, in their opinion, if all of us "evangelicals" would just disappear.
2) It's easy to win the argument, but lose the war. Or, to be more precise, I may win an argument with someone, but it makes it more difficult to discuss the more important eternal matters with that person after they've been shot down politically. My online name has the order correct... I'm a Christian first, a Conservative second. I'd rather help someone be reconciled to the Living God through the Lord Jesus Christ, than convince them into taking out a CPC membership.
3) People think I'm full of hate. This is probably the most shocking thing I've discovered in my time blogging thus far. I truely find it amazing that people actually read what I have to say, then assume that I'm some hate filled extremist! Everyone I've ever spent any length of time with can attest to it, I'm one of the most happy all around people I know! Honestly, I neither hate nor even strongly dislike anyone! When I express an opinion, I'm amazed to see how many people think that I could actually ever hate anyone! Each and every one of us has been created in the image of God, and is loved by our Heavenly Father, who desires to have fellowship with all. Everyone is special and of immense value, and I want to do what I can to reach out to them and share with them God's love. In the political realm, I simply want to see the best policies put forward for this nation, policies that will solve the greatest number of problems and issued for the all the citizens of this country... and it honestly bewilders me to see how many people don't understand the ultimate goals which our policies have... not hidden agendas, but the betterment of life for ALL Canadians.
My post on Dion getting heckled the other day is a great example of this... I thought it was funny, and I thought it was nice to see that the media, for once, was covering a group that wasn't fawning over him. I honestly believe that Mr. Dion's lack of leadership, and the policies of the Liberal Party of Canada, are bad for this country. I don't hate Liberals... I just disagree with their policies. So what? The amount of hatred I've seen for the expression of a Conservative political point of view has been quite shocking. I discovered that there really are people who will go to any and all lengths prevent Conservative policies, whether they have to lie, distort, or do whatever to stop us from doing what we think is best for the people of this country. Maybe I've been nieve, but I have honestly been shocked by this. I've always heard that this is a country of tolerance, but that is truly a myth that has been propogated for years. Many of those individuals on the left, who want to change and remake this nation to fit their image of what it ought to be, are truly some of the most intolerant and hate filled people I've ever met. (not to say there aren't any on the right... but I've seen and heard many, MANY more on the left... it's about an 80%-20% left-right split)
4) I don't know if anything I've done here has actually made any kind of difference. Whenever I do anything, I want to make a difference in people's lives... I want to be a good example, I want to help them out, I want to see them succeed, I want to see their problems solved. That has always been my motivation. I've always been involved in helping others, and I even won the Town of Pickering's 1997 Citizenship award for all the things I'd done that year. (not that I wanted recognition... it was just a nice bonus) The Lord asked us, those who are Christians, to serve Him by serving our fellow man... a goal I want to achieve. One way that I thought I could do this was by trying to help people, through this blog, better understand why a Conservative government would be the best option for Canada. Along the way, I think I've ticked off more people than I've actually helped... and as that is an utter failure to achieve my goal, it causes me to rethink my strategy.
5) There are other ways that I CAN make a difference. A good friend, who has read this blog from time to time, and has seen other things I've done, reminded me that I have a standing offer to write for a small Christian magazine... and offer I have not yet taken them up on. If I spent as much time reading and writing for that publication as I have here, I might actually be able to make a difference. Also, I've been involved locally with my EDA... there's a lot of things that I could be doing behind the scenes which would have a much better likelyhood of making a difference in my community.
So, again while no firm conclusions have been made as to the future of this blog, those are some of the observations I've made along the way. I'll be spending the weekend thinking and praying about what to do, not just blogging-wise, but commitment-wise overall. Whatever I do, I want it to be said that I made a difference, not only in this life, but more importantly, the one to come.
Because when it all comes down to it, the answer to the question of life is not the Conservative Party of Canada, it is not Stephen Harper, it's not even "42"... it's Christ.
One thing that I set out to do from the early days was to ensure that there was a forum for people of faith within the political realm to express their views and concerns regarding our political process. Canadians who are Christians have expressed to me, over the years, their concern that there seems to be no place for people with a Christian worldview within our political process. I disagreed with them, and have sought through this blog to prove them wrong. It seems, after a lot of reflection, that I may have been the one who was wrong.
I haven't come to any firm conclusions as of yet, but I do know that things will likely be changing around here in one way or another. I have had a blast doing this, and along the way, I've learned a lot. I thought I'd share some of what I've found in my two years of doing this.
1) There is significant hostility towards faith in the political sphere. Most noteably, and this fact is proven by literally hundreds of comments in my two plus years doing this, there is a latent and permiating hostility towards evangelical Christians on the part of the left, most specificially within the youth membership of Liberal Party of Canada... with even a slight (but more tolerant overall) dose of it within the youth membership of the CPC. Overall, it seems that the belief within people of all political stripes is that it would be better for everyone, in their opinion, if all of us "evangelicals" would just disappear.
2) It's easy to win the argument, but lose the war. Or, to be more precise, I may win an argument with someone, but it makes it more difficult to discuss the more important eternal matters with that person after they've been shot down politically. My online name has the order correct... I'm a Christian first, a Conservative second. I'd rather help someone be reconciled to the Living God through the Lord Jesus Christ, than convince them into taking out a CPC membership.
3) People think I'm full of hate. This is probably the most shocking thing I've discovered in my time blogging thus far. I truely find it amazing that people actually read what I have to say, then assume that I'm some hate filled extremist! Everyone I've ever spent any length of time with can attest to it, I'm one of the most happy all around people I know! Honestly, I neither hate nor even strongly dislike anyone! When I express an opinion, I'm amazed to see how many people think that I could actually ever hate anyone! Each and every one of us has been created in the image of God, and is loved by our Heavenly Father, who desires to have fellowship with all. Everyone is special and of immense value, and I want to do what I can to reach out to them and share with them God's love. In the political realm, I simply want to see the best policies put forward for this nation, policies that will solve the greatest number of problems and issued for the all the citizens of this country... and it honestly bewilders me to see how many people don't understand the ultimate goals which our policies have... not hidden agendas, but the betterment of life for ALL Canadians.
My post on Dion getting heckled the other day is a great example of this... I thought it was funny, and I thought it was nice to see that the media, for once, was covering a group that wasn't fawning over him. I honestly believe that Mr. Dion's lack of leadership, and the policies of the Liberal Party of Canada, are bad for this country. I don't hate Liberals... I just disagree with their policies. So what? The amount of hatred I've seen for the expression of a Conservative political point of view has been quite shocking. I discovered that there really are people who will go to any and all lengths prevent Conservative policies, whether they have to lie, distort, or do whatever to stop us from doing what we think is best for the people of this country. Maybe I've been nieve, but I have honestly been shocked by this. I've always heard that this is a country of tolerance, but that is truly a myth that has been propogated for years. Many of those individuals on the left, who want to change and remake this nation to fit their image of what it ought to be, are truly some of the most intolerant and hate filled people I've ever met. (not to say there aren't any on the right... but I've seen and heard many, MANY more on the left... it's about an 80%-20% left-right split)
4) I don't know if anything I've done here has actually made any kind of difference. Whenever I do anything, I want to make a difference in people's lives... I want to be a good example, I want to help them out, I want to see them succeed, I want to see their problems solved. That has always been my motivation. I've always been involved in helping others, and I even won the Town of Pickering's 1997 Citizenship award for all the things I'd done that year. (not that I wanted recognition... it was just a nice bonus) The Lord asked us, those who are Christians, to serve Him by serving our fellow man... a goal I want to achieve. One way that I thought I could do this was by trying to help people, through this blog, better understand why a Conservative government would be the best option for Canada. Along the way, I think I've ticked off more people than I've actually helped... and as that is an utter failure to achieve my goal, it causes me to rethink my strategy.
5) There are other ways that I CAN make a difference. A good friend, who has read this blog from time to time, and has seen other things I've done, reminded me that I have a standing offer to write for a small Christian magazine... and offer I have not yet taken them up on. If I spent as much time reading and writing for that publication as I have here, I might actually be able to make a difference. Also, I've been involved locally with my EDA... there's a lot of things that I could be doing behind the scenes which would have a much better likelyhood of making a difference in my community.
So, again while no firm conclusions have been made as to the future of this blog, those are some of the observations I've made along the way. I'll be spending the weekend thinking and praying about what to do, not just blogging-wise, but commitment-wise overall. Whatever I do, I want it to be said that I made a difference, not only in this life, but more importantly, the one to come.
Because when it all comes down to it, the answer to the question of life is not the Conservative Party of Canada, it is not Stephen Harper, it's not even "42"... it's Christ.
Labels: CPC, The Lord Jesus Christ
31 Comments:
At Fri Jun 01, 11:26:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Well Andrew,
I think first and foremost, there is nothing as difficult as trying to admit to people that your life direction may be changing in unexpected ways. My hope and my prayer for you at this time is that your blogging experience will inform you and guide you in future endeavors. I find it interesting that you've been... I think the word is disheartened in this whole process. And while, even as a Christian, I disagree with your politics, and even your manner of approach, I think Christians still need to vocalize their opinions. So, whatever you do next, proceed with an attitude of service to God, consulting him in all you say and do. He may just be teaching you right now, that not everything needs to be said aloud.
In Him,
Fitz
At Fri Jun 01, 11:58:00 a.m. EDT, Roy Eappen said…
I hope you do keep blogging. We Christians need to keep ur presence in this media. THE MSM is openly hostile to people of faith and its nice to have places online where that is not the case. I echo your comments about nasty comments. I have been called many names for believeing the Bible is the inspired word of God, but no matter.
We should all rmemeber that we are Christians first.
I will pray for you and your family that you make the best choices foe you and your family.
your brother in Christ
Roy Eappen
At Fri Jun 01, 12:43:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Voltaire said to “Judge of a man by his questions rather than by his answers.” And while you may not have all the answers you have dared to ask questions. That is honorable. Rich Mullins said that “being used by God is overrated. God used a donkey to speak to Balaam. Being wanted by God is the thing to be thankful for.” And while it’s honorable to desire God to use you, I believe that you are best used when you are being what he made you to be. You are many things, none of them you should allow to be defined by people. You have a passion for this country and I believe you were given that passion by God. Be what he made you and let him use you as he will. Because he wanted you enough to make you and made you the way you are. It doesn’t require all this self doubt. You don’t have to give up what you love. Just do what you do, give it to God and let him worry about his reasons.
I’m proud of what you do, Andrew, and I love you.
Jo
At Fri Jun 01, 01:01:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Last time I checked, we live in a country that permits free speach. I don't feel it's nessessary that we should apologize for expressing ourselves.
Christians are made to feel that we have to be the perfect pandering model that has been shaped by secular opinion. A pre concieved model that of course is totally dictated but the likes of individuals who want to silence the liberty afforded us under the same constitution , and charter.
We have to remind ourselves that the servant is not above his master.
Mt:10:25: It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?
This is all a part of the warfare granted us.
Phil:1:29: For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
We have to endure hardness .
2Tm:2:3: Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
4: No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
We have to keep the faith , and finish our course.
2Tm:4:7: I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
8: Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
Hang in there, and don't worry about mans opinion, we won't be standing before unbelievers to give an account. Only one opinion counts when it's all said and done.
Timothy Coderre
At Fri Jun 01, 01:09:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
What you don't seem to understand is that you don't have to be evangelical to be Christian.
Also, if you truly, truly believed in Christ's teachings why aren't you following them?
Christ believed in the separation of church and state.
Christ didn't believe in organized religion and making money at religion and he thought one should pray alone.
Christ believed in "tolerance", helping the poor and understanding those less fortunate.
This is all in the book of Matthew.
At Fri Jun 01, 01:26:00 p.m. EDT, Brian in Calgary said…
Christ believed in the separation of church and state.
One could argue with that, depending upon how you define separation of church and state. If you define it as separation of institutional control, then you have a point ("Render to Ceasar the things that are Ceasar's, render to God the things that are God's"). However, if you define it as separation of influence, then you are definitely wrong in my opinion, since He calls upon his followers to be salt and light to the world.
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To CC - Considering the above anonymous poster at 1:09 PM EDT is but a mild case of what you've had to put up with, I don't blame you for re-evaluating the future of this blog.
At Fri Jun 01, 01:28:00 p.m. EDT, Ally D said…
Andrew,
Over the years I've gotten to read about what you're passionate about, and that's given me more respect for you as a brother and a Christian. If giving up this blog is the right thing to do, then you need to do it, but doing what's right isn't always what feels easiest, and even tho this isn't easy you've gotten out a voice that is not as often heard. Not to mention your blog makes me giggle, and I love that as well.
I hope you can take this from a little sister...I love you very much.
Ally
At Fri Jun 01, 01:31:00 p.m. EDT, Joanne (True Blue) said…
Andrew, if you give up because of the insults, then they win.
On the other hand, if you feel led to do something different, then follow your heart.
At Fri Jun 01, 01:45:00 p.m. EDT, Christian Conservative said…
Hey Joanne, it's not the insults... believe me, I'm thick-skinned when it comes to that.
It's a genuine and honest re-evaluation as to whether or not I'm accomplishing anything here.
At Fri Jun 01, 02:14:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Noah was a preacher of righteousness with little results.
Lot warned Sodom and Gommorah with little results.
Even Christ had his desciples flea when the going got tough.
Timothy Coderre
At Fri Jun 01, 03:46:00 p.m. EDT, Joanne (True Blue) said…
Andrew, Sandy at Crux-of-the-Matter/Jack's Newswatch is raising a similar question
At Fri Jun 01, 06:38:00 p.m. EDT, zolton said…
"In historical events great men - so-called - are but labels serving to give a name to the event, and like labels they have the least possible connection with the event itself. Every action of theirs, that seems to them an act of their own free will, is in an historical sense not free at all, but in bondage to the whole course of previous history, and predestined from all”
At Fri Jun 01, 08:20:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Andrew -- I gave up once and then ended up coming back. Blogging gets under your skin. I am a Christian as well but never have discussed in on my blog. Just my way. I hope to be an example instead. Each to their own. As Joanne (TB) said to me, and to you, if you give up, they win. I have always appreciated what you wrote and envied your honesty. Whatever you decide, all the best. Changing to Word Press with a really good spam filter has made a huge difference in my case. It doesn't eliminate anger and hate but it does reduce it somewhat.
At Fri Jun 01, 08:35:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Andrew -- One more thing. If you plant the seed in someone's heart, you just never know where it will grow. Doing your blog may be one of those things where you just do not see where the Holy Spirit will take it.
If you want ideas about Word Press, contact Cynapse at cynicsunlimited@yahoo.com
Just tell him Sandy sent you. I am sure he would be happy to set you up on a new site with a link from your current one. And, you could provide your commentary and then "let it go" if you know what I mean. I also take care of my church blog so I understand that novel idea of evangelism. Take Care.
At Fri Jun 01, 10:59:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Keep up the fair (there is no one good but God) work. If we based any Christian endeavour on the feelings we had as we undertook the task nothing would get done. One day we had company that would not go home even as the supper hour aproached. Grudgingly we mixed up the last bit of food we had in the house and set it before them. Although the food was barely enough to feed our growing family the "guests" heartily dug into it filling their plates to overflowing. Somehow there was enough food for the rest of us. In fact there was enough for everyone to have seconds. When the guests finally left we cleaned up the kitchen throwing quite a bit of food away. It slowly dawned on us that the Lord had performed a miracle with the food. A few weeks later two of the four children came to faith in Christ followed a year later by their mother. Had it been up to our feelings we would have thrown the bums out the door and eaten the food ourselves.
At Fri Jun 01, 11:31:00 p.m. EDT, Dirk said…
Since you're in a reflective mode now, perhaps you'll be interested in an observation from a long time reader.
I've found that your postings and responses to comments tend to veer on the defensive side when critiques of your faith arise. Sure, there are some genuinely hateful comments from anonymous posters, which are best ignored. But other times, there are legitimate critiques of your positions, specifically where your faith and politics intersect. I've found that you've tended to interpret critique as opposition, or rather, intolerance of your position. Some people have gone too far in some debates, but in looking back through the comments, haven't we all?
Long story short, your first observation can be shortened: "There is significant hostility in the blogosphere."
At Sat Jun 02, 11:31:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Give it up bigot.
At Sat Jun 02, 10:24:00 p.m. EDT, rob said…
I can't imagine why someone would think that you're full of hate. You know that I disagree with you on most political issues, but I've always found you to be pretty much the most polite blogger in the Canadian blogosphere.
(not to say there aren't any on the right... but I've seen and heard many, MANY more on the left... it's about an 80%-20% left-right split)
I actually always thought that there were many more hateful people on the right. I suppose that our perceptions on this issue are likely skewed by the fact that people on the right don't drop by your blog to leave hateful comments, just as people on the left and centre generally don't leave hateful comments on mine.
though I disagree with you on most political issues, I hope that you continue blogging; the blogosphere needs the civility that you bring.
Cheers,
Rob
At Sun Jun 03, 01:49:00 p.m. EDT, Simon said…
It's about time you realize the damage you've done.Whatever you claim to be you are NOT a Christian. You are just an apologist for the Bush regime and an unconditional homophobe. Have you any idea how much harm you have done to gay children? Do you even care? How many you may have driven to suicide. Your hands are sticky with gay blood. I'm more Christian than you are.But hey don't give up blogging. Just drop the Christian crap and keep on going...
At Sun Jun 03, 06:05:00 p.m. EDT, Christian Conservative said…
"I can't imagine why someone would think that you're full of hate. You know that I disagree with you on most political issues, but I've always found you to be pretty much the most polite blogger in the Canadian blogosphere."
Rob, that's one of the nicest comments I think I've gotten on this blog, from anyone in any camp. It means a lot, thanks.
Simon, thanks for proving, once again, my conclusions from last week, along with some of my conclusions about the blogosphere in general... namely above points 1 and 3.
I will say it, once again, for the record... people are free in this nation to live as they please, and that includes choosing a homosexual lifestyle. Living along side that freedom ought to be the freedom to maintain one's religious convictions, in accordance with the teachings of their scriptures. The Bible teaches that homosexuality is wrong... dispite what some may try and twist it into saying. It also teaches that adultery is wrong... as is lying, speeding, stealing, etc... these are all called sins in the Bible, and without a genuine understanding of what sin is, there is no room for redemption... which is in my view, the key of God's Holy Word.
In my view, you can't pick and choose which truths you agree with, and toss out the inconvient ones.
Now, how this makes me, in your view, a "homophobic, Bush appologetic, gay child murder", I'm not entirely sure. (I'm being honest here... what makes you think I "have blood on my hands"? I'm not being sarcastic here... I just can't figure out how you got from A to B on that one)
I would argue that I'm actually looking out for the souls of those gay children, seeking to ensure that they hear and heed the redeeming Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ... just as much anyone else.
The Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is for everyone... the liar, the theif, the murderer, the adulterer, the "good person", everyone... regardless of who they are, or what they've done.
What could possibly be hateful about that?
At Mon Jun 04, 05:45:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Years ago, my friend committed suicide. He was gay and couldn't come out because his parents were uber-religious. He couldn't find middle ground between his parents hard-line views at the truth of what he was.
He was told his entire life that what he was was a living, breathing sin. There is a terrible mental burden that accompanies that.
I believe that is what Simon is referring to.
At Mon Jun 04, 07:03:00 p.m. EDT, Christian Conservative said…
Mark, that's the sort of thing I figured Simon was referring to... but I failed to see how he could possibly accuse me of that.
As for how I'd deal with that situation, it's easy... we're all living, breathing sinners, and to try and differenciate between sins and catoragize some as "heinous" and others as "sort-of-okay" leads to the sort of conditions that friend of yours found himself in.
I don't know the situation, so I can only speculate... people who are "religious" tend to foster that kind of environment. The sort of people I hang out with aren't "religious" in that same way, in that we recognize that no ammount of "keeping the Law" will please God... it's solely upon the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ that we may enter into God's presence.
It may be difficult for someone on the outside looking in to understand, but there is a clear difference between those who are "religious" and those who have a living faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. (that is, assuming you're on the outside... I may well be wrong on that... in fact, I hope I am!)
At Mon Jun 04, 10:03:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Interesting comment.
The situation is one that I cannot understand. I'm not that religious, to be honest, so perhaps there is a long bridge to cross here for us to understand where we are both coming from but I'll try anyways.
My friend was gay. This was not a choice, so how could it be a sin?
If we mention things like adultery or murder, those are concious choices, correct?
I understand the principle that God created us with free will and that we are responsible for choosing the correct path, but to my friend that path was correct. He was gay, he couldn't change that. He certainly didn't choose to go through the anguish that he endured through the process.
So, I will put it to you - if homosexuality is not a choice, how can it be a sin?
At Tue Jun 05, 09:28:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Wow. Andrew, I had no idea the kind of issues you have faced on this blog. These are very difficult questions that could easily sway a weaker Christian into a secular mind set. I think we need someone like you here dealing with the people that honestly want to rationally discuss issues with an open mind. We all know which ones to ignore. I would encourage you to continue. Either way, you have our support.
At Tue Jun 05, 01:19:00 p.m. EDT, zolton said…
Are you better then me?
Is god a conservative?
Would God progress the systemization of greed/ruthlessness in our economic systems?
I don't think so... But if you said yes to any of those questions then I think your being led by the devil not the Lord.
If you attach your faith to your political beliefs then you automatically can never be wrong for a "magical being" legitimizes your beliefs. However that is not God, that is man claiming to know what God wants and using him for Babel (kinda sick actually)
It's easy to win an argument If you got proof but we all know that faith is the antithesis to proof.
Im not saying that God exists/doesn't, I haven't made up my mind.
The only problem I have is that I see far too many people claiming to know what God wants( for political purpose) and I think thats WRONG.tr
At Thu Jun 07, 01:16:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Going to answer my question preacher?
At Thu Jun 07, 01:51:00 p.m. EDT, Christian Conservative said…
I forgot you had posed a question... busy week last week.
"So, I will put it to you - if homosexuality is not a choice, how can it be a sin?"
This is a false dilemma, because you are assuming that the premise "homosexuality is not a choice" must be correct... contrary to Romans 1:18-32, and 1 Corinthians 10:13.
I know you're not going to like that answer, but it's the only one I can find with any Biblical authority to make.
At Thu Jun 07, 09:02:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Not a problem. Just interested in keeping the discussion going.
To me, its not a false dilemma. Your working from the original assumption that homosexuality is a choice and I'm working from one that it is not.
But, I will put it this way. Without specific reference to the Bible or biblical authority, do you personally believe that homosexuality is a active and continuing choice?
Considering all of the things that homosexuals have to endure (bigotry, hatred, rejection, even violence) do you believe that this is something that they welcome because of an active decision that they make?
At Thu Jun 07, 09:30:00 p.m. EDT, Christian Conservative said…
Hey Mark, always welcome to converse. (as you can well see from my blogging) ;-)
I find it hard to comment on these kinds of issues without referring to the Bible because to me, it is the best expose on the human condition available. Even when I read a passage that I may not agree with at first, I find that time and time again, it's proven right, and has more insight into who we are and how we tick than anyone or anything else around.
That being said, I agree that the concept that it is a choice is difficult, but I should backtrack a bit, which may help give some insight... I believe that sin overall, is a choice, and that we, as fallen human beings, are all "bent" one way or another... for some, it's homosexual thoughts, for others, it's adulterous heterosexual thoughts... in God's view, it's irrelevant, because it's all done ultimately in rebellion towards Him... it's us deciding to do our own thing, our own way.
Another point that I often point out to people (although it's a Biblical one!) is found in Matthew 19:10-12...
"Jesus' disciples then said to him, "Then it is better not to marry!" "Not everyone can accept this statement," Jesus said. "Only those whom God helps. Some are born as eunuchs, some have been made that way by others, and some choose not to marry for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven. Let anyone who can, accept this statement."
I'm sure you're curious to see where I'm going with this, so here goes... I firmly believe that there are men within our society that have been blessed with the gift of not being attracted to women... BUT, in our society, their automatically taught that if they're not attracted to women, then they MUST be attracted to men... whereas this passage teaches that it's perfectly normal for them not to be attracted to women.
These men are actually blessed, in my opinion... if taught correctly, they have the ability to forgo "normal" relationships, and the encumberances that often go along with them.
Our society also does not teach much about healthy guy relationships these days... because you have strong feelings towards another guy does not mean there is anything homosexual about it. Men for eons (until now it seems) have had very strong feelings and relationships with and for one another, with nothing sexual at all about it.
Of course, same goes in reverse for women.
Just one out there, not fully developed theory that I have. (contrary to popular belief, I don't sit around thinking about homosexuality all the time, devising ways to deal with it, or explain it)
Have to end things there for now, but feel free to reply... I'm away for the next week, so likely won't reply until then.
At Sun Jun 10, 06:30:00 p.m. EDT, Christian Conservative said…
zolton, your comment was deleted due to innapproriate content.
Please do not post graphic sexual content on this blog.
At Tue Jun 12, 05:24:00 p.m. EDT, zolton said…
Shucks I forgot what it said, but I can bet you it was honest.
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