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I'm an evangelical Christian, member of the CPC, but presently & unjustly exiled to wander the political wilderness.
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Wednesday, June 27, 2007

Dion using NDP slogans?

Just got this desperate plea for funds from the Liberal Party of Canada... yea, right... I've already "donated" plenty over the years through my stolen tax dollars, thank you very much! (interesting how they're desperately pointing out that Liberals get to donate up to $3,300 a year, due to their leadership race last year, whereas we can only donate $2,200 a year. Typical Liberal... always looking for a way around the limits...) ;-)

Noticed something interesting in reading Mr. Dion's plea though... humm, where have I heard this slogan, "Bringing results to the People", before?

OH YEA! He got it from the NDP!

See? Joe Commuzzi is right... Dion really is steering the Liberals to the hard Left! ;-)

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7 Comments:

  • At Wed Jun 27, 06:25:00 PM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    A Conservative that calls himself
    "Christian" refers to falsehoods - go figure.

    Dion was not involved in anything,(you get that?), anything illegal.

    I.E. sponsorship "12 years ago". Dion in politics "10 years".

    You won't go to heaven if you keep this nonsense up. Shame, shame on you.

     
  • At Wed Jun 27, 06:50:00 PM EDT, Anonymous Bruce said…

    Anon:

    Dion was very much involved in the sponsorship scandal - but he has become deaf, dumb and stupid just like the rest of the Liberal MP's who sat in the HOC during that time. What happened to the missing $40 million? Steffie knows

     
  • At Thu Jun 28, 08:00:00 AM EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    For the record, Anon@6:25, take another look at the article... the whole first paragraph, where I refer to Sponsorship, Dion's name ain't there.

    Of course, it IS linked to the Liberal Party of Canada, who I refer to in the Sponsorship section.

    Anyway... do you have any idea where the other missing $40 million went? They're not saying...

     
  • At Thu Jun 28, 08:59:00 AM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Sorry, I have trouble taking you seriously, given your views on evolution and your belief in the supernatural.

    Thanks for your input though.

     
  • At Thu Jun 28, 09:23:00 AM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Dion "was NOT" involved in sponsorship. In fact, when it was going on he was fighting for Federalism - that's where he got notice by Aline Chretien and later Chretien asked him to join the Party. Stop the blatant lying and stop being to stupid to believe conservative misleading statements.

    Sponsorship is so over. It was 12 years ago - new people are in the Liberal party and it's time to move on.

    Should we be blaiming Harper for Mulroney's scandals? I guess so as apparently you think things of the past should be put on the shoulders of the people of the present.

    Stop talking religion and start acting it - you'd be more respected.

    Hate and vile statements and misleading statements is not my kind of Christianity. Shame!

     
  • At Thu Jun 28, 10:10:00 AM EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    No "vile" or "hate" filled statements here... just statements of court recorded fact!

    Theft is also not a "Christian" value. And as you so clearly have pointed out, neither is lying.

    Therefore, what would you call the theft of millions of dollars, and then lying about it, then being deciteful by returning $1.14 million dollars and saying that was all of it, and then covering your butt so that no one within your party is held accountable for it?

    I'd call it the Liberal Party of Canada... how about you?

    As you've so clearly pointed out, these aren't values that any Christian could possibly support.

    And again, for the third time, and hopefully for the record, I HAVE NEVER TRIED TO LINK DION TO SPONSORSHIP. Maybe much of the party brass has changed, but if that's the case, why haven't those now in charge done their own investigation of the past bunch and held their own accountable? Why have they not come forward with information to lay charges against those who really were responsible? Honesty and integrety are Christian values, are they not?

    As for the sins of the Mulroney era... as the Liberals are so fond of pointing out, it's a new bunch at the top now, and it's a whole new Party... out with the old, in with the new. The Liberals can't say the same!

    Thanks for helping me prove the un-Christian nature of the Liberal Party of Canada!

    Now, as a Christian, I'll ask you a question... do you support them? If so, how do you justify supporting a party with a known history of lying and theft?

     
  • At Fri Jun 29, 12:37:00 AM EDT, Blogger Dirk said…

    The last comment presented a rather
    slanted version of the sponsorship scandal and its outcomes. The Liberal party did start an investigation into what happened and where money went: Gomery. People -- Liberals -- were convicted. Were there some people who escaped justice? Probably. But there are many permanently tainted former politicians and bureaucrats.

    "I HAVE NEVER TRIED TO LINK DION TO SPONSORSHIP."
    This is more than a little disengenuous. You say this, yet you level charges about how the Liberal party hasn't come clean about sponsorship, basically calling into question the morality of anyone that supports them today. According to you, where does this leave Dion, who leads this party? Your two statements don't square. Either Dion is tied to sponsorship because you think the party needs to do more to clean up, or he represents a new guard in the Liberal party, which is untainted by sponsorship.

    "If so, how do you justify supporting a party with a known history of lying and theft?"
    Glass houses...
    The CPC hasn't directly been accused of stealing -- although Bev Oda's expense accounts, and Harper's makeup artist do, in my view, constitute wasteful spending.
    Lying, on the other hand has been a regular tactic by Harper and his PMO.
    Example 1 (false statements on action plan for official languages): http://forums.macleans.ca/advansis/?mod=for&act=dip&pid=49979&tid=49979&eid=43&so=1&ps=0&sb=1

    Example 2: breaking promises -- income trusts, for instance. I think breaking this promise was the right thing to do, but making the promise in the first place was dishonest. Ok, there is an alternative: it was a dumb promise, so stupidity may be the root cause here. But these people aren't dumb, so I'm going with dishonesty.

    Example 3: Claiming to have delivered on health care pillar. Coyne has a decent piece on this:
    http://andrewcoyne.com/columns/2007/04/harper-has-learned-well.php


    And there's lots more to choose from. The ever-shifting Afghan prisoner story -- lies were indeed told there, and there are many Nova Scotians who have lots to say about the latest budget.

    Oh, and what of Flaherty's comment where he stated that his government doesn't cut special deals? Was he around during the leadup to the Quebec election?


    Since you've laid down a gauntlet where you're challenging Christian Liberals to justify their support for a party in light of past scandals, I feel it's vital that you hold yourself up to that same standard. I await your thoughts with interest.

     

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