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I'm an evangelical Christian, member of the CPC, but presently & unjustly exiled to wander the political wilderness.
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Monday, January 28, 2008

A Dark Anniversary for Canada

20 years ago today, infanticide was de-criminalized here in Canada. It's a reprehensible stain on our national image... one which no one seems to care to correct.

We all ought to weep for the hundreds of thousands we've allowed to be murdered since that dark day. So long as we do nothing to stop the slaughter, we will all have blood on our hands.

NOTE: I will not tolerate pro-infanticide comments today, and any that are made will be removed... so don't bother. Serious questions are welcome, and I will attempt to respond... but no promises. Comments supporting the cause of saving the lives of the unborn are welcome.

If a high volume of pro-infanticide comments are posted, the comments section will simply be closed... you have been warned.

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18 Comments:

  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 11:34:00 a.m. EST, Blogger The Christian Heretic said…

    Technically abortion isn't "infanticide," but I'll refrain from saying any more here.

    My thoughts on this particular anniversary can be found over at my blog, so as not to start a fight over here. :)

     
  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 11:36:00 a.m. EST, Blogger Jeff Davidson said…

    some would suggest that women abort out of convenience. my experience has shown me that poverty is the main culprit.

    if those who so vocally oppose abortion were as dedicated to eradicating poverty and all that comes along with it, i have no doubt that the number of terminated pregnanices would plummet.

     
  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 11:38:00 a.m. EST, Blogger The Christian Heretic said…

    if those who so vocally oppose abortion were as dedicated to eradicating poverty and all that comes along with it, i have no doubt that the number of terminated pregnanices would plummet.

    Partially agreed. I also think better sex education, and stopping the promotion of shame over premarital sex in religious circles are necessary to help as well. The Abstinence Only-type programs have now been proven to increase teen pregnancies and the transmission of STIs and the many in the Church need to start dealing with reality rather than wishful thinking.

     
  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 11:40:00 a.m. EST, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Abortion, except for the health of the mother is restricted after 18 weeks in most provinces, and 25 weeks in the other few.

    Saying we have no controls on abortion is at best a half truth.

    If both sides in this debate didn't reach for half truths or worse (re genocide awareness project) maybe the majority would be comfortable with codifying the current restriction in law, so we no longer 'go too far'.

     
  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 12:05:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Anon@11:40, I think you're paritally right, however, you know the truth will never really come out... advocates of abortion will organize mass rallies, demonize us, and slander us in the media, who will be complicant in supporting their point of view if we ever try putting forward any such legislation.

    It's a real shame, eh?

    I must give my compliments to everyone for being well behaved thus far... I haven't had to remove any comments, and we're having some good and genuine discussion... thanks all.

     
  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 12:08:00 p.m. EST, Blogger The Christian Heretic said…

    Anon@11:40, I think you're paritally right, however, you know the truth will never really come out... advocates of abortion will organize mass rallies, demonize us, and slander us in the media, who will be complicant in supporting their point of view if we ever try putting forward any such legislation.

    Not all of us. I'm very Pro-Choice, but I'm all for limiting abortions to the first trimester, or at least to early in the second trimester, at least for non-medical reasons. For medical emergencies I'd say leave it as it is.

     
  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 04:52:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Joanne (True Blue) said…

    I'm all for limiting abortions to the first trimester, or at least to early in the second trimester, at least for non-medical reasons. For medical emergencies I'd say leave it as it is.

    Then how can you call yourself 'Pro-Choice'? Just curious.

     
  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 04:55:00 p.m. EST, Blogger The Christian Heretic said…

    Then how can you call yourself 'Pro-Choice'? Just curious.

    I can call myself whatever I want to call myself. :)

    Personally, I see very little reason to allow abortion far beyond the beginning of the 2nd trimester as most women should be able to have decided what to do by then, unless I'm mistaken.

     
  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 05:04:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Joanne (True Blue) said…

    Personally, I see very little reason to allow abortion far beyond the beginning of the 2nd trimester as most women should be able to have decided what to do by then

    Then we're really not that far apart at all on this issue.

     
  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 05:16:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Justin Socie said…

    I find that the misusage of language ("infanticide") to try to help your political position isn't useful, and detracts from what you're saying.

    That's just a comment on form. As for substance, I wonder what policy you advocate for - specifically, which exceptions to a ban on abortion you would tolerate?

    Lastly - what is the point of censoring those who don't share your opinion? I didn't think that you were prone to that.

     
  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 06:27:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Hey Justin, I put the proviso there because I've seen these sorts of posts become nothing more than hate-fests... and I didn't want it to decend to that. It seems to have been sucessful, we've had some good discussion here today.

    I stand by my use of the word "infanticide"... as I believe life begins at conception, any deliberate action to end that life would be murder... and our society classifies the murder of an infant as "infanticide".

    As for what forms of abortion I'd support, they're VERY few and far between... basically, only where the life of the mother is in extreme jepordary.

    Since I believe that all life is sacred, it's the only conclusion I can come to that reconciles all my beliefs.

    Thanks for your good and honest questions.

     
  • At Mon. Jan. 28, 06:28:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    And for the record, I haven't had to remove a single comment... everyone's been well behaved.

     
  • At Tue. Jan. 29, 10:59:00 a.m. EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Scratch my above statement... one decieved individual tried to be cute.

    You were warned jj. Your opinion on this matter is wrong, and is not welcome here.

     
  • At Tue. Jan. 29, 02:06:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Justin Socie said…

    We'll agree to disagree on the use of the word 'infanticide'.

    Do you leave any room for the idea that public policy ought not to follow your religious beliefs? I know that polticians will sometimes make the argument that though they are against abortion, they don't want to force their religion upon others.

     
  • At Tue. Jan. 29, 02:14:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    "Do you leave any room for the idea that public policy ought not to follow your religious beliefs?"

    On most policy issues, I do... however, on this front, I believe it's a clear issue of right and wrong.

    To me, this one goes beyond the tenants of faith, and gets right to the core of who we are as human beings... of course, I believe we were created "in the image of God", so I guess it's a bit of a blurred line.

     
  • At Tue. Jan. 29, 02:20:00 p.m. EST, Blogger The Christian Heretic said…

    The thing is, there are a lot of us Christians who are pro-choice, and believe that not only is the Bible silent on the issue of abortion, but that it's extremely unlikely that God actually has anything against the practice at all (and that the attempts to use the Bible to back up the anti-abortion position are based on bad misinterpretations). Obviously I'm not going to get into the arguments as to why here (it's all easily google-able anyway), but I can argue for abortion from a Christian perspective just as easily as other Christians argue against it.

     
  • At Thu. Feb. 07, 12:19:00 p.m. EST, Blogger Luke Coughey said…

    Why would the Bible need to say anything direct about abortions? If we were to heed to God's directions for our lives, sexual promiscuity would not be a problem nor would unwanted pregnancies.

    If you don't want kids, don't have sex.

    It is funny. Sin has consequences. Instead of working to stop the sin, we come up with ways to work around the consequences.

     
  • At Thu. Feb. 07, 12:25:00 p.m. EST, Blogger The Christian Heretic said…

    If you don't want kids, don't have sex.

    I'm married, and neither my wife or I ever wants kids, so your logic doesn't work. If she were to get pregnant I'd hope she'd get an abortion.

     

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