Goodale doesn't get it
Ralph Goodale has an article published in today's National Post, and keeps repeating the same mantra he's been plugging all last week... and he proves that he really doesn't get it.
"But the truth keeps tripping them [the Conservatives] up. For more than a full year now, the Liberal Official Opposition has offered repeatedly to fast track as much as 70% of all the justice measures Mr. Harper’s government has brought before Parliament. With the government and the Official Opposition voting together, easy passage would have been assured. But inexplicably, the Conservatives declined."
Did you hear that? "As much as 70%". Ralph, Ralph, Ralph... you keep talking about the 70% you agreed to fast-track, but you keep ducking and dodging whenever anyone asks you about the other 30%. It's the other 30% that's the issue... WE WANT IT PASSED, IMMEDIATELY.
Take it or leave it. It's not about forcing an election... it's about making sure you don't kill off this important legislation in the House, Committees, etc. The people want mandatory minimums for gun related offences... PERIOD. We're giving it to them... DON'T try to stop us, or you'll have to explain to the people of Toronto why you opposed this sensible law. (though I'm sure Jack would be most grateful for all the seats you'll be donating to his Party...)
There's no legit reason for anyone to be carrying a gun on our streets... END OF STORY. I say if you use one, or are even found carrying one without the proper controls (ie - locked case, unloaded, appropriate paperwork... the way gun enthusiasts transport their guns to their clubs), then you ought to be locked up, as you have chosen to make yourself a threat to our society, in your blatant disregard of human life.
Do you get it now Mr. Goodale?
In the end, however, he does make a substantial offer... "All parties should simply forego any debate on this omnibus crime bill at the second reading stage, since all of its component parts were already beyond that point before last Tuesday's Throne Speech. There's no need for any rehashing. In Parliamentary language, let's just "deem" this omnibus crime bill passed at second reading, and send it directly to the House of Commons Justice Committee for detailed consideration. This could save days or weeks of pointless wrangling.
This is just a good faith offer to make progress quickly. Let's hope we're not met with more threats."
I got one better... let's do that, but set a time limit of two weeks in the House of Commons Justice Committee. (because, basically, we don't trust you not to try bogging it down or trying to weaken it in Committee) Then, we bring it back to the House immediately for the Third Reading vote. Get it passed there, then sent to the Senate, where your Leader will request the Senate pass the Bill with "all haste", to have it given Royal Assent by the end of November, at the very latest.
Sound like a deal?
"But the truth keeps tripping them [the Conservatives] up. For more than a full year now, the Liberal Official Opposition has offered repeatedly to fast track as much as 70% of all the justice measures Mr. Harper’s government has brought before Parliament. With the government and the Official Opposition voting together, easy passage would have been assured. But inexplicably, the Conservatives declined."
Did you hear that? "As much as 70%". Ralph, Ralph, Ralph... you keep talking about the 70% you agreed to fast-track, but you keep ducking and dodging whenever anyone asks you about the other 30%. It's the other 30% that's the issue... WE WANT IT PASSED, IMMEDIATELY.
Take it or leave it. It's not about forcing an election... it's about making sure you don't kill off this important legislation in the House, Committees, etc. The people want mandatory minimums for gun related offences... PERIOD. We're giving it to them... DON'T try to stop us, or you'll have to explain to the people of Toronto why you opposed this sensible law. (though I'm sure Jack would be most grateful for all the seats you'll be donating to his Party...)
There's no legit reason for anyone to be carrying a gun on our streets... END OF STORY. I say if you use one, or are even found carrying one without the proper controls (ie - locked case, unloaded, appropriate paperwork... the way gun enthusiasts transport their guns to their clubs), then you ought to be locked up, as you have chosen to make yourself a threat to our society, in your blatant disregard of human life.
Do you get it now Mr. Goodale?
In the end, however, he does make a substantial offer... "All parties should simply forego any debate on this omnibus crime bill at the second reading stage, since all of its component parts were already beyond that point before last Tuesday's Throne Speech. There's no need for any rehashing. In Parliamentary language, let's just "deem" this omnibus crime bill passed at second reading, and send it directly to the House of Commons Justice Committee for detailed consideration. This could save days or weeks of pointless wrangling.
This is just a good faith offer to make progress quickly. Let's hope we're not met with more threats."
I got one better... let's do that, but set a time limit of two weeks in the House of Commons Justice Committee. (because, basically, we don't trust you not to try bogging it down or trying to weaken it in Committee) Then, we bring it back to the House immediately for the Third Reading vote. Get it passed there, then sent to the Senate, where your Leader will request the Senate pass the Bill with "all haste", to have it given Royal Assent by the end of November, at the very latest.
Sound like a deal?
10 Comments:
At Mon Oct 22, 03:26:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
You say you want it passed immediately, do you have any idea of how a parliamentary democracy works?
There is a thing called debate and another thing called a majority.
At Mon Oct 22, 03:58:00 p.m. EDT, Christian Conservative said…
Actually, I have a very good idea of how it all works... and I also know that if all the parties actually try to work together (read, "if the Liberals REALLY want to co-operate, rather than just stall and deflect"), the timelines I suggested are well within the realm of possibility.
At Mon Oct 22, 04:59:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Poor Goodale never recovered from his year or so at Finance; he's been in a blind rage ever since then.
And that slicked-back hair . . . makes him look like a wannabe Sopranos character.
At Mon Oct 22, 05:48:00 p.m. EDT, Paul MacPhail said…
Bob in Ontario: You were close about Ralph. It was the Libranos.
At Mon Oct 22, 06:59:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous said…
Personally, I don't see all that much wrong with gun possession, it is illegal gun USE that we should stomp on, hard. Sure, guns should be carried in a safe manner, but cracking down on improper storage or transporting is not as important to me as cracking down on using a gun to threaten or shoot people.
Very few people in Canada die each year as a result of unsafe gun transportation, significantly more die from being deliberately shot.
At Mon Oct 22, 07:28:00 p.m. EDT, Christian Conservative said…
Hey Jon, I'm talking about people who aren't just transporting a gun, I'm after people who are carrying... big difference from someone legally transporting from A to B.
At Mon Oct 22, 07:49:00 p.m. EDT, Joanne (True Blue) said…
Good post. I'm going to link to it.
At Tue Oct 23, 09:00:00 a.m. EDT, Drew Costen said…
How are you conservative if you're against guns? I'm ridiculously left-wing and I'm all for more people carrying guns. We need a 2nd Amendment up here.
At Tue Oct 23, 12:22:00 p.m. EDT, Brian in Calgary said…
I'm ridiculously left-wing and I'm all for more people carrying guns.
tch - I wouldn't call you ridiculously left-wing, just someone who likes to think for himself. I usually disagree with you, but on this issue, I think we're probably on the same wave-length. For example, if Virginia Tech hadn't been declared a "No Guns Zone," I don't think the massacre would have happened to anywhere near the extent that it did. The culprit would have been stopped cold before he killed as many people as he did.
At Tue Oct 23, 12:35:00 p.m. EDT, Drew Costen said…
For example, if Virginia Tech hadn't been declared a "No Guns Zone," I don't think the massacre would have happened to anywhere near the extent that it did. The culprit would have been stopped cold before he killed as many people as he did.
Exactly.
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