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Friday, July 13, 2007

Jack Layton needs some history lessons

I think Mr. Layton needs a refresher on his World War II history...
"Students of history will know that all major conflicts are resolved ultimately through peace-oriented discussions," Jack Layton smugly intoned at a media conference last week, with the bodies of six Canadians, who are heroes, not yet cold.
If I recall correctly (having aced my WWII unit in highschool) the Germans weren't too interested in negotiating until Allied troops had them at the end of the barrel of a gun, after having taken the entire city of Berlin... and, of course, after their madman leader Hitler had already offed himself.

Then again, I could be wrong. Then again, maybe not, as the author of the article continues...
"All major conflicts are resolved through peace-oriented discussions? That's funny. The invasion of Normandy was not a peace-oriented discussion. Nor were the nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Nor, for that matter, was the American arms-spending spree that bankrupted the Soviet Union and ended the Cold War. But never mind that. Jack Layton, the Great Peace Maker, has spoken."
Oh, hang on, I know what he's talking about! He must be referring to the November 11th Armistice with Germany (Compi├Ęgne) and the following Treaty of Versailles... but of course, we all know how those negotiations turned out about 21 years later...



  • At Fri. Jul. 13, 04:52:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Mark, Ottawa said…

    Indeed, the Allied and Associated Powers did win the First World War--after very short "negotiations"

    that led to a crushing armistice,

    and then a peace treaty which the Germans had no part in framing (whether that was a Good Thing is another matter, but Margaret MacMillan--"Paris 1919"--thinks Versailles was about the best that could be done at the time). You could look it up, Jack


  • At Fri. Jul. 13, 05:00:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Mark, Ottawa said…

    Actually, only the Soviets took Berlin. But the other Allies had them completely on the run in western/central Germany too. The jig was up and the war ended--after a very brief conversation:


  • At Fri. Jul. 13, 05:48:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I think the only history Jack Layton is interested in is the NDP history about war.

    Tommy Douglas didn't want Canada to go over and fight Hitler either. NDP view - never, never war.

    I don't believe in the Afghan mission, especially now, but Jack Layton and the NDP have to be realistic about the way the world is now.

    War should ONLY be the LAST resort, but sometimes necessary.

  • At Fri. Jul. 13, 07:33:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    "War should ONLY be the LAST resort, but sometimes necessary."

    Hear hear Anonymous... I wholeheartedly agree.

    Reason with those who can be reasoned with, and extend every effort to resolve differences.

    And to those who refuse to listen to reason... well, that's why I support the Afghan mission. The butchers who ran the nation would repress and kill women without cause, etc.

    Unreasonable men, who refused, and still refuse, to honour the most basic of human rights. These are men who should not be permitted to run a village, let alone a country.

  • At Fri. Jul. 13, 08:34:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Shawn Abigail said…

    I was trying to find this quote by Layton the other day, but the CBC only ran it for a short time. Layton is the master of the opportunistic sound bite, but this comment shows he has little grasp of history. War is a tragedy, and we need to avoid militarism and patriotic jingoism, but there is such a thing as a just war and I tend to think Afghanistan is one of them.

  • At Sat. Jul. 14, 02:05:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous joe said…

    The three thinnest books ever published:
    1)Jack Layton's Knowlege of the History of WWII.
    2)Socialist Heros of WWII
    3)NDP Logic Regarding Afgan War

  • At Sat. Jul. 14, 11:02:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger LOVE AND IMMIGRATION CRIER said…

    Only empty vessels will make noise about stabling Afghanistan.I am very grateful to those governments that vow to give Afghans a life.


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