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Monday, October 19, 2009

So the Liberals still want to talk cheques?

I find it interesting that the Liberals keep wanting to talk about this cheque "scandal". Okay guys... LET'S TALK CHEQUES...

Thing is, I don't seem to recall ever seeing them holding a public cheque presentation ceremony with this one...

UPDATE: Just so there's no confusion, and to ensure the Libs don't try and sue me or something... it's called "Photoshop" folks!

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  • At Mon Oct 19, 11:17:00 a.m. EDT, Anonymous Gor said…

    Feh. Liberal cheque, how bouncy art thou?

  • At Mon Oct 19, 11:27:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Top Can said…

    Did Paul Martin acutally sign that? That's pretty ridiculous.

  • At Mon Oct 19, 11:42:00 a.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    Top Can... it's called "PHOTOSHOP". ;-)

    (the sig is actually his, pulled off the Finance website I think)

  • At Mon Oct 19, 12:04:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I think the lieberals will calm down if the Conservatives promise to let them put the lieberal logo on brown envelopes.

    Rob C

  • At Mon Oct 19, 12:05:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger CanadianSense said…

    I am not worried about "props", lack of invitations to the Liberals, NDP holding those props or attending those "townhall" meetings. The Liberal bedwetters crying wolf does not bother me.

    As a taxpayer I want the Iffy Greenshift costed and who is paying for it.

    I also don't expect the return of the millions missing from Adscam. The government is forced to take Elections Canada to court to collect the overpayment in GST to political parties.

    The "faux" outrage of Liberals pretending to be concerned about taxpayers money is very funny.

    They owe millions in GST.

  • At Mon Oct 19, 12:07:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Ted Betts said…

    I hope you realize that every time you say "the Liberals did it too", you are undermining the credibility of Say Anything Steve because it is an admission that he is doing all that he opposed.

    It helps frame a ballot question: do you want a PM who admits he's no better than the person he said was the most corrupt PM ever? or the PM of a party that we already punished (electorally and financially) for some very bad things they did over a decade ago, three PMs ago and 5 Liberal leaders ago?

    It's not the ballot question Liberals want, but it will do.

  • At Mon Oct 19, 12:28:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger bigcitylib said…

    Yeah, but did Paul Martin actually SIGN that?

  • At Mon Oct 19, 12:36:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger Christian Conservative said…

    I have no idea BCL, because the Liberals have never made the cheque public... although I do remember there were calls for that, just to PROVE that they actually paid it back.

  • At Mon Oct 19, 01:01:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger CanadianSense said…

    BCL TED B,

    It is fair to be critical regarding the violation of the communications policy. No one is disputing the "logo" on a few cheques. Ethics commissioner is going to investigate those complaints.

    The attempt to paint the advertising, townhall meetings lack of invitations for opposition members as a scandal or an abuse is "stretching" it beyond the pale.

    David McGuinty is upset he is not allowed to protest inside a townhall meeting or hold a prop?

    Did Liberals want to throw "tim bits" at the Tim Hortons welcome back press conference?

    BTW I am for less spending and waste and believe EAP wil have problems. (Gov't spending at all levels have a % of problems)

    That does not mean I accept the "pattern of abuse" exposed by Sheila Fraser and Gomery because some Lib bloggers, opposition MP's can't sustain the current government.

    That is the disconnect.

  • At Mon Oct 19, 01:48:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The PM has never said thats ok because the Libs did it Ted, so, I'm not sure of your point. The PM has come out and said that its not to happen again. Its Con bloggers that have reminded the fake outraged Lib bloggers that it seemed to be ok 10 years ago.
    For me...its plain wrong regardless if its the Cons or the Libs and it should remind everyone how easy it is to slip into that arrogant political mindset. billg

  • At Mon Oct 19, 02:10:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous gimbol said…

    This is a good topic and it affords the liberals to submit to a question about tax payer dollars, partisan use thereof, and coalitions.
    Point one:
    The last time the government decided to eliminate that tax payer funded subsidy to political parties, the liberals where willing to form a coalition that had the Bloc as the one holding the plug (I'm sure PET was spinning in his grave over that).
    Point two:
    To take the liberal talking point verbatum, there is no excuse for using tax payer dollars for partisan use, no exceptions.

    Therefore, I expect that legislation to eliminate partisan use of tax payer dollars should have the full support of the liberals.

    So the question is, if the goverment tabled a confidence motion to eliminate that $1.95 per vote subsidy, of the three choices which do you believe the liberal caucus would take?
    1-Oppose and decide to take their case to the voters that they should be able to keep that subsidy?
    2- Support, and give the tax payer a break?
    3- Decide to seize power throw a coalition and keep the tax payer subsidy?

    Be careful what you ask for. If you make this a big enough issue, Harper won't get blamed for an election, Iggy will, and will have that perception of elitist branded on him and his party for life.

  • At Mon Oct 19, 02:14:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger wilson said…

    maybe paul martin stuck the $1.14Million of stolen taxpayer money into the EI fund!
    Where they could raid it to fake a surplus.....

  • At Mon Oct 19, 02:27:00 p.m. EDT, Blogger wilson said…

    I love it when Liberals remind us of the Adscam era:

    really good summary here at CBC:

    ''Gilles-André Gosselin, says he was pressured to donate to the federal Liberals in exchange for sponsorship contracts...'

    '' François Beaudoin, former head of the Business Development Bank of Canada, tells the inquiry that Jean Carle, an aide to Jean Chrétien, and Jean Lafleur, head of Lafleur Communications, pressured him to buy a box at Montreal's Molson Centre in 1999.

    Beaudoin says he was reluctant to buy the box seats with public funds.
    He says Carle and Lafleur suggested using "dry-cleaning methods"
    to cover up the purchase: Lafleur Communications would buy the box, charge the BDC consultant fees and nothing would appear on the bank's books.''

    ''..Following Corbeil was Marc-Yvan Côté, a Liberal organizer for 21 eastern Québec ridings.
    He told the inquiry he received $120,000 cash in three installments from former executive director Michel Béliveau to cover the expenses of candidates in the 1997 election.
    A huge envelope containing two smaller envelopes of $30,000 in $100 bills, was handed over to him in Montréal, Côté testified. He received two more payments, one for $40,000 and the other for $20,000....''

  • At Mon Oct 19, 02:36:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The liberals would never use cheques like that, they prefer brown paper bags...

  • At Mon Oct 19, 05:14:00 p.m. EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I'm interested to learn how the Liberals were 'punished' financially.

    How did they arrive at that amount owed?

    How and when did they repay the money?

    Did they pay any interest or penalty?

    Was their party welfare cheque suspended? Did they lose any part of that cheque?


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